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re: Net Worth at 30

Posted on 7/30/13 at 6:26 am to
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 7/30/13 at 6:26 am to
quote:

Vehicles count as a liability, no equity in a vehicle


That is incorrect, it's pretty simple assets - liabilities = net worth
Posted by JL
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 7/30/13 at 6:50 am to
I'm an idiot
Posted by HeadyMurphey
Los Santos
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/30/13 at 7:26 am to
quote:

Vehicles count as a liability, no equity in a vehicle.


My 03 Ford says differently. That truck has been paid off for 6 years!
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/30/13 at 7:34 am to
quote:

My 03 Ford says differently. That truck has been paid off for 6 years!


Then you own a depreciating asset.
Posted by HeadyMurphey
Los Santos
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/30/13 at 7:36 am to
quote:

Then you own a depreciating asset.


So I don't have about 4K in equity in my truck Doesn't really matter anyway
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35511 posts
Posted on 7/30/13 at 7:50 am to
quote:

So I don't have about 4K in equity in my truck


Well, you may today. In a month or a year? Who knows.
Posted by jjbodean1970
Huntington, WV
Member since Mar 2006
6493 posts
Posted on 7/30/13 at 8:14 am to
quote:

That is incorrect, it's pretty simple assets - liabilities = net worth

:kige:
Posted by yellowfin
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Member since May 2006
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Posted on 7/30/13 at 8:18 am to
quote:

Well, you may today. In a month or a year? Who knows.



that's the thing about net worth, it's at one point in time.....changes every day
Posted by Zach
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Member since May 2005
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Posted on 7/30/13 at 12:10 pm to
I'm not kidding around. I'm confused by this quote:

quote:

Assets minus liabilities. You had $100k net worth based on the info you gave (unless you are referring to liquid net worth).


It was from Sneakytiger.

This was my post:

quote:

At 30 my net worth was zero. Using today's dollars I had a 300K house with 100K down (equity). I did not have 200K in savings and stocks. So, that's zero.


So,
Assets... 100K equity in home
Liability... 200K debt

My conclusion: I have no net worth.
Sneaky's conclusion: I have 100K in net worth.

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84985 posts
Posted on 7/30/13 at 12:15 pm to
Equity is net. It's an asset worth 300k that you owe 200k on. So you have a net worth of 100k.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80117 posts
Posted on 7/30/13 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

So,
Assets... 100K equity in home
Liability... 200K debt


Your worth is the value - amount owed

If you were to sell everything you had at market price and pay off all debt, how much money would you have?
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15045 posts
Posted on 7/30/13 at 12:27 pm to
Think of it this way:
quote:


Assets... 300K home
Liability... 200K debt
Net... 100K (ie, your equity)
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 7/30/13 at 12:32 pm to
I give up
Posted by Anfield Road
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/30/13 at 12:33 pm to
The only way you get zero or negative net worth from your home is if the value of your home decreases such that its value is less than the remaining amount that is owed.
Posted by Zach
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Member since May 2005
112438 posts
Posted on 7/30/13 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

If you were to sell everything you had at market price and pay off all debt, how much money would you have?

So, if I could sell my home for 300K then I would get back my 100K equity. Got it.

So, what kind of debt is liability if home debt is not? And what if I can't sell it for 300K?
This post was edited on 7/30/13 at 12:37 pm
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80117 posts
Posted on 7/30/13 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

So, if I could sell my home for 300K then I would get back my 100K equity. Got it.


Yes, so your worth would be 100k

quote:

what kind of debt is liability if home debt is not?


Don't ask me questions I don't have an answer to

quote:

And what if I can't sell it for 300K?


If the market price for your home is currently $250k, then your net worth would be $50k. Same as any stocks that you have, as they fluctuate in price, so does your worth.

Posted by Zach
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Member since May 2005
112438 posts
Posted on 7/30/13 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

The only way you get zero or negative net worth from your home is if the value of your home decreases such that its value is less than the remaining amount that is owed.

Well, you just answered the question in my last post. Thanks.
Posted by Zach
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Member since May 2005
112438 posts
Posted on 7/30/13 at 12:47 pm to
I think I see the definitional difference.
My view of net worth was:
Assets v. Owed
Yours is:
Assets v. Liabilities

I viewed:
Owed = Liabilities

Happily, I owe nothing and have no liabilities. I could calculate my net worth by putting my house on the market, but I don't want to ever sell. This is my home till I pass into that great golf course in the sky.
Posted by Latebloomer
Passing through
Member since Jul 2012
262 posts
Posted on 7/30/13 at 12:58 pm to
Zach - anything you owe is a liability. It doesn't matter if its credit card balance, student loans, a mortgage, car loan or $50 to your best friend. All of your assets will fluctuate as to their value - stocks, 401k, house or other properties.

I used to run the loan department of a bank and helped people put together their financial statements - you list all your assets on 1 side and liabilities on the other. Then you subtract "what you owe" from "what you have" to get your net worth. I never include anything such as furnishings, jewelry, cars, beanie baby collection. Usually not worth what you paid for them.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18025 posts
Posted on 7/30/13 at 1:06 pm to
Didn't read the entire thread so this may have been mentioned, but in the Millionaire Next Door, the formula is this:

Annual Income x Age/10

If someone who makes 80k at 30 has more than 240k, they are doing well.

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