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Need advice on paying off debt

Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:02 pm
Posted by King of New Orleans
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Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:02 pm
I just paid off my truck. I would like to put my truck payments toward my wife's car. If I do this, I will have it paid off within the next year.

Once completing that, I'd put THAT payment toward credit cards, then onto medical bills.

I am trying to follow Dave Ramseys debt snowball but it seems like I can make quicker progress if I pay the car off first. Am I losing it?

With interest rates, I'm probably backward in my thinking and should pay off the cards first, right?

Also, with cards, I have 4. I'm big with numbers and like to see how long it'll take to pay them off depending on what I pay each month. Is it better to take said amount and sit it up between the cards or put all of said payment toward one card at a time?

FWIW, the car note is about the same as the cards. Both roughly $6,000.

Any help is appreciated.
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 12:05 pm
Posted by Wee Ice Mon
Member since May 2014
1397 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:14 pm to
Pay the credit cards off first to avoid accrued interest on the debt. The vehicles are simple interest, which means a fixed amount added to the cost of the vehicle.

Take card with the highest rate and knock it out.
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 12:15 pm
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8375 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:18 pm to
I've never followed the Ramsey system but I have heard him on the radio. When I paid off all my college aged decisions I did it highest interest rates first. I focused on one at a time to achieve milestones but not smallest to largest. I believe Ramsey's approach is also around hitting milestones(small goals) so that you feel like you're achieving. Smallest to largest is effective because you can pay off smaller items faster and therefore have an early sense of winning to get in a rhythm. I think Ramsey targets what he believes is effective for the most people on average.

Personally, If I'm you, I do whatever keeps you motivated to pay down your debts and get you living comfortably.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 10/8/17 at 1:17 pm to
Like wee ice mon says, you need to do some investigating into interest rates. You basically want to just pay the highest rate debt off first. I would imagine the cards are higher rates than the vehicle, especially if you bought the vehicle new.

Good luck, being debt free is powerful, I commend you for making it your goal.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9364 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 1:18 pm to
Yeah Ramsey's debt snowball is really aimed at people with spending problems, so paying off the lowest balances, no matter the interest, gives these people a sense of accomplishment and quick reward. There is a place for this approach but it really depends on the individual
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
16208 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 1:29 pm to
First off, great job on making the commitment to getting your finances in order.

I agree with what others said. As long as you stay with this for the long term, pay off the highest balances first. But if i had a small bill that I could knock out with a few months payments, I might do that first just for the satisfaction of it.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:10 pm to
Highest interest rate first, and that is almost certainly the credit cards.

Paying off the cards has the additional advantage that you don't need an emergency fund while you're targeting them. If an emergency does happen you can charge it back up.
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 5:43 pm
Posted by King of New Orleans
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/8/17 at 7:49 pm to
Thanks for all the advice. I've started leaning toward the cards first and after looking at the rates on the cards, I'm more in favor of paying them off first.

Thanks again and feel free to add any additional advice/tips!
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 8:05 pm to
Pay off the credit cards, tear them up and never ever carry a balance on a credit card from one month to another. If you can't keep from doing that then throw them all away so you will not be tempted.

You will sleep better and manage your money better without credit card debt.

Who wants to work and live to pay huge interest on credit cards.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4311 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 8:17 pm to
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Highest interest rate first, and that is almost certainly the credit cards.

Paying off the cards has the additional advantage that you don't need an emergency fund while you're targeting them. If an emergency does happen you can charge it back up.


I would go with this plan. By paying off your credit cards first you've eliminated the debt with the highest interest rate and given yourself a safety net in the case of an emergency. That way you can feel a little more comfortable aggressively paying off your wife's car afterwards. And if something does come up, then use your money to pay the credit card off again and then get back on track with your wife's car.

Unless you consolidated all of your debt at a favorable interest rate - something I don't have experience doing - I think the above is your best course of action.
Posted by Popths
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
3965 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 8:51 pm to
Either follow Dave or don't. His process is based on getting you geared up to pay off debt. Paying off the little ones first and giving you a feeling of "can do" to motivate you. Seems to work. I listen to him all the time even though I'm debt free. He does good work.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:26 am to
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Paying off the little ones first and giving you a feeling of "can do" to motivate you.


If that's what you need for motivation, so be it. But even DR admits that from a financial standpoint it's better to hit the high rate debt first.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17989 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:04 am to
Dave Ramsey's method is also the quickest way to more financial freedom which is not the same as being the best fiscal choice as far as saving money.

Everything comes at a price and so does financial freedom. One big benefit of the snowball method is that you are freeing up income that can be used for other things but not forced. As you eliminate each debt, that is something you are no longer forced to make payments on.

The more of this "freed up" money you have, the more you can cover a bad month or unexpected expenses that pop up for those of us living in the real world. If you have plenty of disposable income after allocating all your required expenses, this shouldn't be a concern for you. But if you are living paycheck to paycheck, freeing up the budget to handle the unexpected does end up being a good fiscal choice if it prevents you from having to use a CC or take on a bad loan again.

Find what your priorities are before deciding.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:53 am to
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One big benefit of the snowball method is that you are freeing up income that can be used for other things but not forced


If you're spending on stuff that "isn't forced" then you're really just financing it on that 20% card.

This is not a benefit at all.

And if "a bad month or unexpected expenses" pop up, you can charge it back up when it happens. For example, if you have one card at 10% and one at 20%, you are freeing up more total money (across both) by attacking the 20% card as hard as possible and paying the minimum on the 10% one.
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 10:24 am to
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I am trying to follow Dave Ramseys debt snowball


This is the biggest problem with his entire program. You should always always always pay off the debt with the highest INTEREST RATE first.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4094 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 11:02 am to
quote:

This is the biggest problem with his entire program. You should always always always pay off the debt with the highest INTEREST RATE first.


quote:

Yeah Ramsey's debt snowball is really aimed at people with spending problems, so paying off the lowest balances, no matter the interest, gives these people a sense of accomplishment and quick reward. There is a place for this approach but it really depends on the individual


As Meeple said, Ramsey's program seems more aimed at those with issues. Just as with someone with a drinking problem or eating disorder, that sense of accomplishment may be necessary to keep them on track.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 11:05 am to
You're confused. You're supposed to shite on Dave Ramsey, not explain why his system has merit in certain situations.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37093 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 11:28 am to
I always gasp when DR is mentioned on this board =)

His system is one that works. It 's not the only one that works. It is simple and it gives you small victories.

Paying the card with highest rate first may save a tad bit of money in the long haul... but if it takes you 8 months to do it... human behavior says most people will quit before you get there. But pay off a card or two quickly, might let you see progress.

If you listen to DR for more than 90 seconds you realize his methods are much more human rationality and behavior than pure economics.

Which is interesting because most people don't get in trouble because they have a money problem, they get in trouble because they have a behavior problem.
Posted by tigereye58
Member since Jan 2007
2668 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 1:28 pm to
He wants you to hit the smallest DEBT amount first. 3 cards at 6k or car at 6k...seems the cards are all 3 less than the car. Start with the cards, smallest one first and hit them hard and fast. They'll all be gone in a year and you'll feel great. That small of an amount on a card doesn't really add up real fast as far as rates but if you have 2 that are similar in $ amount then pay off the highest rate first. Other than that start with the smallest amount first.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4094 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:37 am to
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