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re: Meta Platforms (Facebook) Discussion

Posted on 10/27/22 at 8:59 am to
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40833 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 8:59 am to
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Well FB admitted to spending 10B dollars on their metaverse last year. Literally throwing money away


Facebook crashing TD Post from March

The second they say they are going to stop burning all their money on the metaverse, the stock will change course. However, doubt that happens any time soon with Zuck in charge. Their entire company is trying to make it happen, but their vision of it is a dystopian nightmare for the user. It is a platform for advertisers, they have no killer feature.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123814 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 9:02 am to
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Meta Platforms (Facebook) Discussion
Zuckerberg's obsessive dalliances in the "metaverse" are a moneysink.
Posted by the4thgen
Dallas, tx
Member since Sep 2010
1778 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 12:53 pm to
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We know advertisements aren't where these technology companies make their money.


Want to know how I know you have no idea what you are talking about?

Meta Advertising revenue in Q3 ALONE was $27.23B. They made $296m PER DAY in advertising revenue.

I am not defending the direction the company is going, but you just sound stupid saying shite like this.
This post was edited on 10/27/22 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53442 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 1:15 pm to
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Has virtually nothing to do with their politics.



Sure it does. You can try to eliminate that, but people remember and have done away with the platform.


Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10258 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 1:47 pm to
Yeah, I’ve bought approx, 155, 125, and now 98 lol. For an avg now just under $118. Bought heavier today. Will add one more time at $75 range that would bring avg to $100 even. That’s it for me. Will let it sit for a while. Either whatever they’re doing will work or it won’t. Also hopefully they lean up staff. I’m sure you guys have seen the video of the “product managers” day in a life. Talk about needing to trim the Cush jobs
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted by TigerIron
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 3:58 pm to
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Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4083 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 5:04 pm to
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Sure it does. You can try to eliminate that, but people remember and have done away with the platform.


I don’t closely follow the company or the stock, other than when I do option plays on it. But are you claiming that they’ve lost a meaningful number of MAUs because of political reasons and that’s the primary cause of their downturn? I really don’t know. But from the synopses I’ve heard today, it has more to do with Apple’s changes to the way it handles MacOS and iOS advertisements, Tik-Tok competition and overspending (with nothing to show for it) on the Metaverse initiative.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10258 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 5:34 pm to


And the cherry on top.. she posted it on snap. Which is indeed taking some market share from FB
Posted by JLivermore
Wendover
Member since Dec 2015
1416 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 7:46 pm to
Midterm ad revenue next quarter could give it a temporary bump...but does strong quarter = Zuck is gonna throw even more money and resources at his metaverse?

Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53442 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 10:05 pm to
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But are you claiming that they’ve lost a meaningful number of MAUs because of political reasons and that’s the primary cause of their downturn?


A major reason:

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Facebook is losing users for the first time ever and shares in Meta have fallen off a cliff


Headline this year Feb 22.


LINK


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Facebook scrambles to escape stock’s death spiral as users flee, sales drop
Published Fri, Sep 30 2022



LINK

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Users are jumping ship and advertisers are reducing their spending, leaving Meta poised to report its second straight drop in quarterly revenue



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But from the synopses I’ve heard today, it has more to do with Apple’s changes to the way it handles MacOS and iOS advertisements, Tik-Tok competition and overspending (with nothing to show for it) on the Metaverse initiative.


This is true too. But Slack was saying that a user drop has nothing to do with it.

I was pointing out that it did and does. Most of the user drop is they are using platforms that are not censoring.

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84752 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 10:19 pm to
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Sure it does. You can try to eliminate that, but people remember and have done away with the platform.


Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17716 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 8:28 am to
This thread is so full of confirmation bias.

This is exactly how people lose their asses in markets.

I simply won’t invest in Facebook because it’s poison and Suckerberg is a tool. Meta May someday take off and make some people money but I’d rather eat shite for the rest of my life then watch something I know will make society even worse than it already has.

I can at least admit that’s a bad emotional take but sometimes principal investing is ok.
This post was edited on 10/28/22 at 8:29 am
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19418 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 11:34 am to
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Zuckerberg's obsessive dalliances in the "metaverse" are a moneysink.


Crappy cartoonish graphics in a world where game engines can do photorealism in real time 3D and VR that very quickly becomes a serious pain in the eyes due to viewing little screens a couple of inches from the eyes is a killer. The novelty soon wears off and the eye strain becomes a pain.

I've followed VR for decades and produced a lot of stereoscopic material and some VR for convention attractions. It's a pain and its limitations are physical with the head sets.

That doesn't mean that the non-VR part of Meta is going to die.

The funny thing is that giving people a 3D game like experience to create their own environment to share using templates sans VR would work fine and avoid insoluble problems of VR goggles.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31064 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 11:49 am to
I leveraged down a few times this summer thinking the whistleblower report would create a buying opportunity and that it would head back up. Gotdam was I wrong. This metaverse thing is a disaster. If I'm going to invest more in tech it'll be GOOG....just bought a little bit more today at $93.97 to average down there as well.
This post was edited on 10/28/22 at 11:51 am
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53442 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 12:17 pm to
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I can at least admit that’s a bad emotional take but sometimes principal investing is ok.


It's more than ok!

Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72540 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 2:03 pm to
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I hope it goes to zero.




yup. I am fine with it crashing and burning and him losing his arse now. Sold all my shares today. took the profits and ran.

zuck
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19418 posts
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:31 am to

Too many of the analysts on Seeking Alpha seem to think that Metaverse is going to be a massive new market for all kinds of things. Google Cardboard was $10 device that you could put your phone in and run their VR program. It worked but no matter what, it's hard on the eyes to view little screens an inch or two from the eyes.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 11/4/22 at 12:10 pm to
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Metaverse is going to be a massive new market for all kinds of things.



Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17716 posts
Posted on 11/4/22 at 12:48 pm to
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Too many of the analysts on Seeking Alpha seem to think that Metaverse is going to be a massive new market for all kinds of things. Google Cardboard was $10 device that you could put your phone in and run their VR program. It worked but no matter what, it's hard on the eyes to view little screens an inch or two from the eyes.



I don't think anyone denies there will be some sort of big market here.

The question is it $5Bn per quarter spending big? That's hard to fathom.

Also stolen from the All In guys*
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