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Market sell off 12/20/23
Posted on 12/20/23 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 12/20/23 at 2:05 pm
For those scratching their head watching this move today, this is what happens when $1.3T worth of derivatives expire on triple witching (which were hedged by the dealers buying the underlying while they sold calls) and the major VIX expiration cycle which expired today. Dealers been selling calls so much they had to buy buy buy to hedge their risk, but what comes around goes around.....
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 2:10 pm to BourbonDad
This is what an unpinning of volatility looks like...as of 2pm CST
Posted on 12/20/23 at 2:12 pm to BourbonDad
To be clear, we probably get the usual vol selling and get a whiplash bounce and continue this move into Jan 17. But this is the mechanics of the move, despite whatever "catalyst" they blame it on.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 2:22 pm to BourbonDad
This ones on me guys. I made a sizable investment yesterday.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 2:25 pm to OysterPoBoy
quote:
This ones on me guys. I made a sizable investment yesterday.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 2:28 pm to BourbonDad
quote:To find when the Dow Jones was this low you have to go all the way back to last Thursday...
Market sell off 12/20/23
Posted on 12/20/23 at 2:29 pm to BourbonDad
A generational buying opportunity
Posted on 12/20/23 at 2:40 pm to OysterPoBoy
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This ones on me guys. I made a sizable investment yesterday.
Dammit man! You need to disclose these types things. Had i known this i wouldn't have been buying this morning.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 2:40 pm to LSURussian
I'm explaining an intraday move, not implying a sell off in the traditional sense. Dow doesnt mean shite either....come back late january and tell me how you feel.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 2:49 pm to BourbonDad
quote:Okay, to find when the S&P500 was this low you have to go all the way back to....uh....also last Thursday.
Dow doesnt mean shite either.
Better now?
Posted on 12/20/23 at 2:56 pm to BourbonDad
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a whiplash bounce and continue this move into Jan 17
What time on Jan. 17th?
Posted on 12/20/23 at 3:09 pm to BourbonDad
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continue this move into Jan 17
Be specifically clear so we can have you on record. Continue what exactly into January?
Posted on 12/20/23 at 3:29 pm to BourbonDad
Your trading call from early November has been right on the money thus far. Folks who put money to work there have done quite well in a very short amount of time.
The second part of it is still one hell of an ask, and not sure I agree, but I appreciate you willing to take your shots and sharing them here.
The second part of it is still one hell of an ask, and not sure I agree, but I appreciate you willing to take your shots and sharing them here.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 3:48 pm to BourbonDad
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To be clear, we probably get the usual vol selling and get a whiplash bounce and continue this move into Jan 17. But this is the mechanics of the move, despite whatever "catalyst" they blame it on.
Cem is that you?
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:07 pm to BourbonDad
Seems there is always a sell off near the holidays. Usually firms closing positions and such for end of year
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:09 pm to Hookah
ive been calling for a year end rally that would last into Jan 17th before a rug pull. Pending how this dip is soaked I may pull forward the Jan 17 but for now it stands.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:09 pm to TDTOM
probably noon
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:10 pm to LSURussian
bro keeping HODLing until your 401k loses 50%. this is the end of a 20yr rate cycle. People have short memories of what can happen, i.e. 5-10yrs of sidewaysPosted on 12/20/23 at 4:34 pm to BourbonDad
What’s special about Jan 17?
Posted on 12/20/23 at 5:55 pm to BourbonDad
quote:I guarantee you that I won't lose 50% in a 401(k).
bro keeping HODLing until your 401k loses 50%.
I won't even lose 1% in a 401(k).
But thanks for your advice, Nostradamus.
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