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LLC for Tutoring?
Posted on 12/1/15 at 7:25 am
Posted on 12/1/15 at 7:25 am
Just starting tutoring through a local company. I am treated as an independent contractor and therefore will need to withhold my own taxes and file that way next year.
Should I go through the trouble to set up an LLC with a separate bank account and bill expenses solely through that? Will this make things easier come tax time? (Will not meet requirements to file for 2015, but expect to for 2016)
ETA: I am employed full time through a large corporation.
Should I go through the trouble to set up an LLC with a separate bank account and bill expenses solely through that? Will this make things easier come tax time? (Will not meet requirements to file for 2015, but expect to for 2016)
ETA: I am employed full time through a large corporation.
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 9:02 am
Posted on 12/1/15 at 9:09 am to seawolf06
Curious, how much are you getting paid per hour and what subjects?
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:14 am to seawolf06
The big benefit of an single member LLC with no employees is liability protection. So I guess, are you likely to need that protection doing tutoring?
As far as "trouble" there isn't much. You can download all of the forms needed to create it from your state's secretary of state website. You can probably even fill them in and file them online. There is a filing fee and a small annual fee, usually. Once you do that, you can apply online for an employer ID number from the IRS, which is free and you get it right away. Then, take everything to the bank and open a business account... some banks have free or reduced cost business checking.
Having a separate account helps at tax time to know what expenses are really business expenses.
As far as "trouble" there isn't much. You can download all of the forms needed to create it from your state's secretary of state website. You can probably even fill them in and file them online. There is a filing fee and a small annual fee, usually. Once you do that, you can apply online for an employer ID number from the IRS, which is free and you get it right away. Then, take everything to the bank and open a business account... some banks have free or reduced cost business checking.
Having a separate account helps at tax time to know what expenses are really business expenses.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:50 am to seawolf06
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Will not meet requirements to file for 2015, but expect to for 2016
If you have any income from the tutoring in 2015 you will be required to report that income for 2015. There are no requirements to report income if you are already required to file an income tax return.
I'm assuming that because you are a FT employee, you are required to file a tax return.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:27 pm to krehn11
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If you have any income from the tutoring in 2015 you will be required to report that income for 2015.
I have been told that the minimum reporting requirement is $600, which I will not meet this year.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:31 pm to LSUFanHouston
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The big benefit of an single member LLC with no employees is liability protection. So I guess, are you likely to need that protection doing tutoring?
I guess there would potentially be liability for lawsuits. I can't imagine what for, but these days it could be anything. I will be tutoring in students' homes.
I was asking more in terms of tax liabilities. From what I have been reading, filing as a sole-proprietor requires paying both employer and employee portions of payroll taxes. Does LLC change these rules?
There was also something I read about some argument by the IRS that at some point, a contractor should be considered an employee and therefore applies penalties. I doubt I will get to that point, but supposedly an LLC protects from this as well.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:31 pm to Wasp
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Curious, how much are you getting paid per hour and what subjects?
$23/hr for Physics, Statistics and IB Math.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:49 pm to seawolf06
How many hours are you expecting to get?
This post was edited on 12/21/15 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:07 am to Wasp
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you should consider going on your own and avoiding taxes
Umm...
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:07 am to seawolf06
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I have been told that the minimum reporting requirement is $600
That's the requirement for the company to issue you a Form 1099.
Any income you earn is supposed to be reported by you, reduced by any deductions you claim.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:16 am to seawolf06
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I was asking more in terms of tax liabilities. From what I have been reading, filing as a sole-proprietor requires paying both employer and employee portions of payroll taxes. Does LLC change these rules?
LLC is a state authorized entity, not a tax status. If you don't form an LLC, you will file a Schedule C on your individual tax return to report your income and deductions. Your net income from the business may also be subject to self-employment tax (if the net income from self-employment is over $400). You pay this tax generally on 92.35% of that self-employment income. Depending on your other earned income, the rate will be 15.3% or 2.0%. You may also have to pay additional medicare tax on the amount of 0.9% depending on your total earned income.
If you form an LLC but choose to be taxed as a sole prop, you will do the same as above.
If you form an LLC but choose to be taxed as an S Corporation, you will file a seperate tax return for the S Corp, you will pay yourself a salary, you will have payroll tax payment and reporting issues inside the S corp, etc. Based on the amounts we are talking about, this is probably not a good idea for you.
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There was also something I read about some argument by the IRS that at some point, a contractor should be considered an employee and therefore applies penalties. I doubt I will get to that point, but supposedly an LLC protects from this as well.
That's an issue, but it's an issue for the company paying you, not for you. They are the ones who determine if you are an employee or an independent contractor, and if they get that choice wrong, they are the ones that are penalized. You doing the work through an LLC might be a small, small positive for the company to treat you as an independent contractor, but it won't be the deciding factor, usually. There is a 20-factor test used to make that determination.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 3:39 pm to Wasp
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How many hours are you expecting to get?
If not many hours, you should consider going on your own and avoiding taxes. After tax you're down to $17-19?
I would assume something like that. It's only going to be a few hours each week since it is a side job.
I basically consider the difference to be "marketing/sales expenses". Working with this company, I don't have to go find new clients as there are plenty available. They also own the contract with the local school district, so all state-funded tutoring goes through them.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 3:40 pm to LSUFanHouston
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LSUFanHouston
That answers all of my questions, thank you very much for your time.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:24 pm to LSUFanHouston
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you should consider going on your own and avoiding taxes
Umm...
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