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Jobs Report Crushes Estimates

Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:22 pm
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37732 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:22 pm
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No idea what to make of this. Confused for sure.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51792 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:47 pm to
This concerns me.

One of the main signals the Fed is looking for before stopping the rate hikes is for Unemployment to begin climbing. It's like the gauge on a pressure cooker except that even though the heat is still going up, the pressure is reading as normal. If this is the case, there's not going to be a good ending to this.

500k+ jobs is a huge number for any month, but January? Fuuuuuck me.

Either they have altered the way they are gathering job numbers or something else is going on, something which everyone seems to be missing.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37732 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:49 pm to
The State of The Union address is a few days away....
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17723 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

The State of The Union address is a few days away....



Generally I'd agree with this but they're also actively trying to sabotage him with the FBI.

Dystopian reality.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37732 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 4:04 pm to
Good point.

Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10267 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 4:09 pm to
January numbers are often messy due to turnover/end of year holiday rotation. People assume these figures are an exact science but it’s really just a gloried guesstimate.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16542 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 4:11 pm to
I don't believe this is true at all.

quote:

That is the lowest jobless level since May 1969.
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17723 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 4:26 pm to
When are the 6 figure tech layoffs going to show up?

Everyone just jumping right into new jobs?
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36137 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 5:16 pm to
quote:

Either they have altered the way they are gathering job numbers


They have been adjusting the original estimates significantly over the last 12 months. Typically downwards

Shenanigans
Posted by ThongSmoker
Houston
Member since Apr 2009
88 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 5:26 pm to
Pretty much. The layoffs were mostly in HR, DEI, and otherwise fluff positions at the tech companies. The actual engineering jobs are still hard to fill.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29275 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 5:43 pm to
Zero hedge has a great article explaining it.

It's all smoke and mirrors. All they have to do is change the variables and they can make the report say whatever they want...just like the recession definition.

Markets ended down because they were able to actually see through the BS.

Biden got his moment though.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85115 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 6:52 pm to
quote:

I don't believe this is true at all. quote:That is the lowest jobless level since May 1969.


Why wouldn’t you believe that?

Who do you know who is unemployed that wants a job?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85115 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 6:53 pm to
quote:

Markets ended down because they were able to actually see through the BS.


Markets don’t want strong jobs numbers.

If they saw through it, rates would have gone down and market would have been higher.
Posted by JimMorrison
The Peninsula
Member since May 2012
20747 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 4:46 am to
Yep, just reinforces higher rates for longer, which the market was wrong about.

This is the first instance these probabilities have favored the FFR getting to 500-525.

Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30606 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:36 am to
JPow just got a stiffy. Time to push the money furnace into high gear. Kill the market

JPow gets wood for market manipulation, printing or burning money. Formerly we thought it was just printing
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85115 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

Markets ended down because they were able to actually see through the BS.


We’re seeing additional follow through today that says the markets absolutely believe this number. 2-year rate is up 35 basis points since before the jobs report.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53107 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 12:45 pm to
Back when trump was president we had Steve Jobs, Johnny cash, and bob hope

Now that Brandon is president we have no hope, no Jobs, and no Cash!
Posted by lsuoilengr
Member since Aug 2008
4779 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:06 pm to
I started a new job in January.
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