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re: Is bitcoin gaining legitimacy?

Posted on 11/17/13 at 5:38 pm to
Posted by Blakely Bimbo
Member since Dec 2010
1183 posts
Posted on 11/17/13 at 5:38 pm to
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Quick question about money and its essence.


I've often wondered about money "essence". Like the first time I went to Hong Kong in the early 80's. Took a boat over to Macau when it was still Portuguese. Grabbed a cab at the landing and went to gambling boat with fading paint and a one armed beggar doorman.Just handling the money there for a couple of hours turned our hands totally black. It had essence all right.



Here ya go WIKI: Senate holding hearings tomorrow. 2:00 PM central.

Beyond Silk Road: Potential Risks, Threats, and Promises of Virtual Currencies
November 18, 2013 03:00PM

US SENATE
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 11/17/13 at 5:57 pm to
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Here ya go WIKI: Senate holding hearings tomorrow. 2:00 PM central.


I'll be watching it.


Anyone here care to comment on $530 bitcoins? When do I get my award for Money Board poster of the year?
Posted by Blakely Bimbo
Member since Dec 2010
1183 posts
Posted on 11/17/13 at 6:55 pm to
Follow the ratio

Bitcoin:Gold

Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 11/17/13 at 8:31 pm to
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Anyone here care to comment on $530 bitcoins?


Snap chat was offered $3b and it's only been around for 2 years. Talk about great investment for that kid.
Posted by Blakely Bimbo
Member since Dec 2010
1183 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 9:59 am to
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Chinese women have played a critical role in the rally, accounting for 40% of VIP customers. VIPs are defined as traders with over 10 million yuan (US$1.6 million) in total transaction volume using the online currency, according to the report.


Most of you are probably too young to remember "Mrs. Watanabe". That ended well.

LINK

The chinese are inveterate gamblers.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 11:03 am to
So Chinese speculators account for approximately 50% of the total volume of Bitcoin transactions. That does not bode well for Bitcoin's future as a currency.
Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
10745 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 1:05 pm to
Bitcoin's biggest problem is definitely stability, although it is more stable now than it has been


I've been watching Bitcoin for a year or so now and have considered some investing but as with all things electronic, I worry about security of the online wallets.
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 1:15 pm to
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Bitcoin's biggest problem is definitely stability


stability will come when it finds its price.

Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 1:27 pm to
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when it finds its price.




yikes
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 1:33 pm to
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Bitcoin's biggest problem is definitely stability, although it is more stable now than it has been
No, Bitcoin's biggest problem is acceptance. The only generally accepted use right now is conversion to and from currencies issued by governments. The volume of transactions done on exchanges by speculators dwarfs the volume done by vendors of goods and services with customers.
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 1:38 pm to
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yikes


yep. and this bubble will eventually pop....my guess is somewhere between $1500-$2000 and it will settle down at a price higher than it was pre-bubble. then it'll go quiet again for 3-12 months and then bubble up again, this time even higher.

wash. rinse. repeat.
This post was edited on 11/18/13 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65044 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 3:18 pm to
So, did you listen? FinCen is going to police the frick out of virtual currencies. Regulation forthcoming.
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 3:20 pm to
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So, did you listen? FinCen is going to police the frick out of virtual currencies. Regulation forthcoming.




you obviously didn't listen.

the overwhelming attitude of all 3 members of the panel were that existing regulations were enough.


Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65044 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 3:22 pm to
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you obviously didn't listen.


I caught the very end where they want these "exchanges" to

1. Register with FinCen
2. Implement AML policies
3. Maintain Records including SARs.

All of those completely arse fricks the premise of "anonymity"
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65044 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 3:24 pm to
Also, if you believe this gives it credibility in any way, I think you are wrong. They know and have stated that it's used for criminal activities by criminal organizations. That's what their focus is. Everything else is secondary.
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 3:25 pm to
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Also, if you believe this gives it credibility in any way, I think you are wrong. They know and have stated that it's used for criminal activities by criminal organizations. That's what their focus is. Everything else is secondary.




keep spreading the FUD


btw, bitcoin at $750 right now
Posted by kyledavis
Member since Nov 2013
734 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 3:26 pm to
So who issues it? Is there some sort of agency controlling it? I love the idea of it.
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 3:27 pm to
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So who issues it?


bitcoin is a protocol. the algorithm is open source and built into the protocol. it cannot be changed without consensus of the network

Posted by Zipfer2022
Member since Nov 2011
3736 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 3:28 pm to
They had no answer for the replacement markets that immediately replaced silk road. This may be the biggest challenge confronting law enforcement in American history. They have adapted before, but this is a whole new beast.
Posted by kyledavis
Member since Nov 2013
734 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 3:29 pm to
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bitcoin is a protocol. the algorithm is open source and built into the protocol. it cannot be changed without consensus of the network


that was like Swahili
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