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How much money should you keep in a savings account? Saving for a house

Posted on 7/12/17 at 6:50 pm
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/12/17 at 6:50 pm
For the sake of this thread let's say I have 50K in my savings account. Saving to buy a house. I would like at least 70k to put as a down-payment.

Should I keep building by savings up to 70k or is there something better to do with my money?
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13657 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 7:05 pm to
I would probably keep it in savings. While a 10% return would be nice, a 10% loss would piss me off way too much to risk it (assuming stock mutual funds). I wouldn't think a "safe" investment like muni bonds or something like that would be worth the time for the little bit of gain. A lot easier to address the monthly budget.
Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 7/12/17 at 7:09 pm to
WOOOOOOOOO!! I agree with the Nature Boy!
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
12577 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 7:13 pm to
I mean to be honest, you could probably put half in a conservative bond fund and at least earn 3-4%.
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7222 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 7:36 pm to
I would put it in something safe but if you know you aren't going to buy a house for a year, I would put it in a year CD.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41195 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 7:36 pm to
How long will it take you to save the other 20K?
Posted by Triple Bogey
19th Green
Member since May 2017
5985 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:19 pm to
Just let your soon-to-be ex wife take it all and be done with it.
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:19 pm to
Can you identify a conservative bond fund paying 4%?
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51907 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 1:32 am to
A more important question in this scenario (and likely to be a contentious one) is if the smart thing to do is putting 70k down.

Consider the alternative of investing the difference as a long term opportunity cost. Especially on "cheap" leverage such as an interest tax deductible house in a period of low rates.

After as little a period of 10 years, we talking around difference of 10k in inflation adjusted proceeds between interest savings and average investment growth by putting down 50k vs 70k
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 1:36 am
Posted by PetroBabich
Donetsk Oblast
Member since Apr 2017
4620 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:59 am to
Shouldn't time be a factor? For example if you're not buying a house for ten years you could invest 50k with near certainty you'll make money. If you're trying to buy a house next year maybe keep that 50k in a savings account where there's no rewards but no risk either.
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
12577 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:06 pm to
Sure. I've been in one for almost a year. It's moved $0.34 since I e owned it. Pays around 4%. PONCX.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 6:36 am to
quote:


How long will it take you to save the other 20K

5-6 months. Buying the house within a year.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 6:37 am to
quote:

more important question in this scenario (and likely to be a contentious one) is if the smart thing to do is putting 70k down.


What percentage of a house value do you consider smart? 10%? 20/
%?
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18770 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:22 pm to
Capital One 360 (formerly ING Direct) is a savings account that pays .75. They also offer a money market account (FDIC covered) that pays 1.1 percent right now. Great place to park extra cash that you can access any time you want.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48953 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

What percentage of a house value do you consider smart? 10%? 20/
%?


How long are you going to live in the house?

If 5-10 years, id put minimum.

If longer, I'd put enough to get a conventional loan, which would be 5 or 10 percent I think?

If forever home, put down as much as you want?

It's honestly up to you. Some people would rather put a bulk in the market getting a return at a better percent that the mortgage rate.

Either way you get equity.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41195 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

What percentage of a house value do you consider smart? 10%? 20/
%?


put 20% down & you avoid PMI
Posted by ToesOnTheNose213
The present
Member since Oct 2007
2028 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 6:49 pm to
Keep in mind that when trying secure a loan, a lender will require you to show the last 2-3 months of your bank statements, and they want to see that your down payment amount has been in one account for that time period. So I recommend putting and keeping that money in the same savings account for at least 2 months. Don't go moving large amounts of money around.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20384 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 9:55 pm to
quote:

put 20% down & you avoid PMI


this.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51907 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:19 pm to
It'll vary based on the person and the scenario.

Assuming decent/good credit, I'd put enough to get you within a .5-1% of prime.

Some people would say automatically put down 20% to avoid PMI. But I would argue that it merely factors into the math, not serves as an absolute. If Interest + PMI is still less than the expected return from a diverse index fund, the smarter move is still investing.

The one absolute I would say is to NOT get an FHA loan with PMI. With conventional, you can always get a bank to remove it after reaching 20% equity without refinancing; and that equity can come from market growth as well.
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 10:20 pm
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
22472 posts
Posted on 7/16/17 at 1:06 am to
quote:

Capital One 360 (formerly ING Direct) is a savings account that pays .75. They also offer a money market account (FDIC covered) that pays 1.1 percent right now. Great place to park extra cash that you can access any time you want.



This. I'm with Ally Bank and they just increased my rate to 1.15 percent for online savings account.
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