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How much money (monthly) should I spend to own a home?

Posted on 3/25/17 at 10:10 am
Posted by Dayman
Member since Sep 2015
713 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 10:10 am
Here is the gist of my financial situation. I'm about to start my first full time job. Combined income between me and my fiance will be ~$135,000-$150,000 before taxes. We are in our mid-twenties. We have some student loans, but nothing significant. No car payments or other significant monthly expenses.

Looking for a home in Metairie. The housing market appears to be slowing down in the area, but prices still seem very high.

My concern is that we don't have much for a downpayment ($25,000). This will leave us with a savings of around $10,000 as a safety net.

I tend to be as conservative as possible, but, given that this home will be an investment and we plan to live there for at least ten years, i don't want to underbuy.

My question is: Given our financial situation, what monthly mortgage payment (with taxes, pmi, homeowners, etc.) should we be looking at? Specifically, is $2000/month too much?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32453 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 10:44 am to
$2000 is not too much IMO
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
4653 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 10:46 am to
Do you have kids or are you planning on having kids in the house? Are your incomes stable?

If yes to both, then I don't think $2000-$2500 is unreasonable. If no to either, I would look for cheapest option you're both comfortable with and maximize savings instead.
Posted by Dayman
Member since Sep 2015
713 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 11:40 am to
quote:

Do you have kids or are you planning on having kids in the house? Are your incomes stable?


Incomes are stable. We do plan to have kids. The homes in the $2000/month range would fit one kid, but we would likely have to upsize if we had more than one kid.
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7220 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:22 pm to
I would buy as small as possible but in a good area to try to save up more money to get something bigger once you have kids. Hopefully by the time you have your second house, you would have enough saved to not have to pay PMI.
Posted by swanny297
NELA
Member since Oct 2013
2189 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:34 pm to
If you are planning on having kids, school district should be your main criteria.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13657 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:48 pm to
I would rent for 6 months to a year first. You are starting your first "real" job. What happens if you buy, and they offer you a 30% raise after six months to move to another city? What happens if you hate your job or your boss? Without kids and just starting out, I would rent and save.
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
3698 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 1:27 pm to
Anything over 160k your be paying pmi. I would keep my payment without debt or kids to 1,500. If you two are making 130k-150k a year without kids taxes will kill you. Don't forget taxes on that amount plus 5-10 percent of that should go to your 401k. Then you have all the other things they take out. And then if after everything you clear 75k as income you jump up to another tax bracket. Plus you need to build savings for any main trance you need to do on the year every year
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41584 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 9:53 am to
quote:

Looking for a home in Metairie. The housing market appears to be slowing down in the area, but prices still seem very high.


You will probably be spending 250k for anything decent . There's a house nearby me for sale that's pretty nice listed at 275

With that income and no car payments you can handle it. 20% down is overrated. You have steady income can make the payments no problem then so what if you pay a little extra pmi. I'd put 5% down ask seller to help with closing and enjoy life with money left in your savings
This post was edited on 3/26/17 at 9:55 am
Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
8141 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:58 am to
I would rent. There are a lot of rentals coming in the market in the next couple of years in Nola. You should be able to get good value in a rental while stockpiling cash to buy the house you really want when you have a down payment together.

I personally would hesitate to buy with less than 20% down.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41584 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 11:11 am to
I will never understand that mindset. A couple where both are averaging 70k a year shouldn't have to rent because they don't have 65k in the bank in their 20s. Buy a nice house put a small amount down live in it and build a family and sell it 8-10 years down the road. PMI is not the end of the world, being broke because you dumped your entire savings into a house is.
Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
8141 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 11:49 am to
In New Orleans you could still be paying $1,500 a month in interest, taxes, and insurance ten years into your loan if you buy a house with a $325,000 loan.

You could probably rent a pretty nice place for $1,500 a month, and you don't have to pay for maintenance.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50344 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 1:17 pm to
I'm not sure how much but I'm a big fan of young first time homeowners buying a "fixer upper". You learn a lot about owning a home and it's a great way tonbuild equity.

Also make sure you buy something that resells easily, such as being in a good established neighborhood. I know you plan on staying 10 years but as young professionals you could easily move for work or you likely won't know what you like in a house your first time around
This post was edited on 3/26/17 at 1:19 pm
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4096 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

I would rent for 6 months to a year first. You are starting your first "real" job. What happens if you buy, and they offer you a 30% raise after six months to move to another city? What happens if you hate your job or your boss? Without kids and just starting out, I would rent and save.


First real job, fiancé and I'm guessing the OP s in his early 20's... for all of those reasons, I'd suggest renting as well. Steinbeck's famous line offers good advice to someone just starting out. Why not see how the job works out, how the fiancé works out and whether or not a Plan B has to be looked at before jumping into a mortgage right now?

But if he's determined to do it, then no, $2000 PITI shouldn't be a problem financially, if that's all he wants to know.
Posted by Dayman
Member since Sep 2015
713 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 6:18 pm to
quote:

First real job, fiancé and I'm guessing the OP s in his early 20's... for all of those reasons, I'd suggest renting as well. Steinbeck's famous line offers good advice to someone just starting out. Why not see how the job works out, how the fiancé works out and whether or not a Plan B has to be looked at before jumping into a mortgage right now?


Area rent is in the $1500/month range. The employer is entrenched in the NOLA market, so there will be no relocation situations.

With that said, I'd rather build equity in a home than pay that much money to rent. But I am willing to acknowledge the benefits to renting, and I thank you guys for your comments.

Thanks everyone for the feedback. There seems to be a consensus that $2000/month PITI will not be a problem financially. I was pretty sure of this, but it's great to have it reinforced.
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
5981 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 8:09 pm to
Given your situation you need to rent. Rent as small and cheap as you can and still live in a good neighborhood. As others have said you do not know how stable your job situation may be or if you will get a better offer elsewhere. Put away the extra money for a down payment later once you have kids.

Also, you and your fiancée are not married yet. You are in your early to mid 20s. Not to be a downer but things happen. I am in my 40s. I could tell stories from my life and my friends' lives but you don't want to hear them. There is no need to get so deeply entangled quite yet. Get a prenup as well.

Finally, renting will also give you a better idea of what you want out of a house. Is it a fixer uppper with projects? A new house with no projects? How much work around the house do you want to do? How will this impact the recreational activities you like? Work for a year, see how it impacts what you do away from work, then consider a house.
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8375 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:16 am to
Given your situation $2000 monthly isn't too much if you're planning on staying 10 years. Sounds extremely easy to manage.
Posted by Juggernaut
God's Country
Member since Oct 2006
20 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 9:22 pm to
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