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re: How does one purchase a true rental home?

Posted on 12/21/15 at 11:28 am to
Posted by HYDRebs
Houston
Member since Sep 2014
1241 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 11:28 am to
No problem. Love the town and the people. With the increase in population, the town has become very crowded in some areas making a rental property there a good investment. If you can find the right property, location, and house. Feel free to shoot me an email with any specific questions you might have
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37093 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 11:46 am to
Thanks for helping him... my guess is that a lot of property in that area is rental and him developing a long-term relationship with a banker will be good.

Once you have one successful rental, people just want more =)
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72629 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 11:47 am to
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to offset your DTI ratio's


it's usually a wash as long as 75% of the rent covers the PITI.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72629 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 11:57 am to
there is one new finance company i know of that will do a deal based on realistic numbers of projected rental income for that area(it can be looked up online) and not personal income. But you must submit everything to them to show them. Everything must be accounted for.
This post was edited on 12/21/15 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75202 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 11:58 am to
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living in Oxford


You call that living?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37093 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 12:01 pm to
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You call that living?


Off topic, but you wander why people think your initials are "TF" =)
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75202 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 12:13 pm to
Don't forget to tune in today at 3 on 1350 AM
Posted by TigerAlum1982
Member since Sep 2011
1439 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 3:30 pm to
Yes, it was a fixed 30 year. Rate is 4.375%
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 3:34 pm to
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Yes, it was a fixed 30 year. Rate is 4.375%


Thats pretty good. I have called a few banks around where I am and have not been able to get a 30 year fixed on commercial property. That is a pretty good rate too. The last 3 we have bought have all been around 4.25% but 5/1 deals.
Posted by TigerAlum1982
Member since Sep 2011
1439 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 3:45 pm to
Some friends of ours closed on a rental last month and they also got a 30 year fixed from Capital One. Their rate was close to ours, but I don't remember exactly what it was.
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 3:51 pm to
It that yours and/or thier first rental? I can't imagine a bank loaning someone 30 year fixed rate loans one more than one commercial property. Not that I don't believe you but I just need to call Capital One asap.
Posted by TigerAlum1982
Member since Sep 2011
1439 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 4:00 pm to
Yes, it was the first rental for us and our friends. We bought ours not too far from LSU for the same reason you are looking at buying, hoping to rent it to a grad student or professor. Right now we have a "visiting" professor and his family in it. So far, they have been great tenants.

Edit....to correct some typos.
This post was edited on 12/21/15 at 4:03 pm
Posted by HYDRebs
Houston
Member since Sep 2014
1241 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 4:08 pm to
My guess is if it was a 30yr at that rate it was a residential home loan instead of a commercial loan. ~4.375% is what we are pricing at today for a 30yr fixed investment property. Typically residential loans have longer options and are priced at better rates because they are less risky to banks.
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 4:16 pm to
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Yes, it was the first rental for us and our friends


That makes more sense. Once you have more than one "other" property, the banks will likely not offer those long fixed rates. That is great you got them while you could though.

Wish I had some property near LSU. My dad, who is also my partner in REI, bought two houses for me and sister while we were in school. Sold them after we left because he did not have the time to manage them. Would be paid off by now and straight cash flowing.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35541 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 6:46 pm to
First I'm not sure why you keep referring to residential rental properties as commercial. They are not.

Secondly FNMA allows mortgages on up to 10 properties per their guidelines so I'm not sure where this more than one other property thing comes from. Clearly it would fit in the guidelines unless certain other criteria (like being in a rural area) isn't met.
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 8:06 am to
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First I'm not sure why you keep referring to residential rental properties as commercial. They are not.


Apologies about the terminology. I am getting commercial loans for the properties as they are not our primary residence.

quote:

Clearly it would fit in the guidelines unless certain other criteria (like being in a rural area) isn't met.


All I am saying was that it would not be in a banks best interest to have several long term loans to a single individual on property to is used for rentals. I am no expert on any of this and I am just going off what I have learned over the last year in talking/meeting with different banks in order get into REI.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35541 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 11:38 am to
If the loan is backed by FNMA or Freddie Mac the bank isn't at risk for a couple of reasons.

The primary reason is that most lending institutions sell the loans. They may retain servicing rights but they don't hold the paper. Or they may hold the paper but they sell the servicing.

Also, these types of loans are backed by FNMA or Freddie Mac.

They don't have to be a primary residence to get a residential loan on them.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4094 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 6:47 pm to
Was it suggested by your banker that they place "commercial" (higher rate, shorter term) loans on your investment properties?

Other than a couple of multi-family buildings (with more than four units, bought later in life), a substantial renovation project and a duplex bought under extenuating circumstances, I never had to use commercial financing for residential real estate purchases early on. Now, once you pass a certain number of units owned (ten, I believe it is now?), you will have to seek alternate financing. But until then, as long as you and the property qualify (1-4 units), you can choose longer term, fixed rate FNMA/FHLMC and even HUD financing (I believe they're still doing FHA investor loans?), if you desire. And if a banker gives you some song and dance about needing to place you in a 1 year ARM product, with a 5 or 10 year balloon, just smile and walk away. Violence is never the answer (especially since banks have cameras all over the place).
Posted by Serraneaux
South of 30a
Member since Mar 2014
19665 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 7:54 pm to
I've gotten two 4.5% rates on two different properties with 25% down. 30 years and escrow included in the mortgage.
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 8:08 am to
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I've gotten two 4.5% rates on two different properties with 25% down. 30 years and escrow included in the mortgage.


That is great! Again, I am no expert on the loan side of it. I just know that I talked to several banks in my area, described our situation and goals and final settled with Bancorp South.

We have two properties with fixed rate 15 year loans at 4.25% with 20% down. After getting the first two, we have used a line of credit to buy the third, so we didn't have to put any money down. We will be rolling that line into a 5/1 15 year in the next month or so and freeing up the line again. Are there better terms out there for me? Probably but I am comfortable with where we are right now. We have already started looking for a forth house and another flip property as well.
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