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re: How did you buy your first RE

Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:20 am to
Posted by nogoodjr
Member since Feb 2006
797 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:20 am to
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Cash $50000 Yearly Ins 1000 Prop Tax 400 Long term tenants already in place $725/month Thoughts?


Much depends on the value of the property. Is there a possibility of adding value? Some things to think about.

1. What is the property worth? If the property is worth 70K and your buying for 50K cash, makes it a much better deal. If it is worth 50K its not a deal.
2. At 50K I assume there is no chance for appreciation.
3. You need to include maintenance, vacancy, property management, cap ex, ect.


So another look. 725/mo x 12 months is 8700.
Subtract 1000 for property tax, 400 for Prop tax (I think this is low), maintenance (lawn, trash, water, ect..), property management 75/mo (figure it even if you plan to do it yourself. You may not want to forever), Cap Ex 50-100 month depending on condition of property.

Now your 8700 a year is more like 5-6K.

That's 10-12% return. I would rather make 8% in the market with zero effort.

Now if you can buy for 50K when its worth 70k. Add 15k in improvements and make it worth 90K. Increase rents to 900/mo and you are in a better position. You have 25k in equity plus monthly cash flow. You can refinance in a year and take all your money out and buy another property. Also can flip the property if you want out.

Lots of variables.
Posted by ThatsAFactJack
East Coast
Member since Sep 2012
1539 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:48 pm to
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nogoodjr


No chance for appreciation, your assumption is correct.

Property tax is actually $381. I have seen the last 3 property tax bills. Tenant is responsible for all utilites and yard maintenance as of today.

I am not using a property management firm as this would be my 1st rental and can handle it myself.

I am looking at this strictly as a buy and hold and add more properties down the road. Not interested in flipping and the location will always keep the rent down and value down.
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