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Favorite Emerging Markets Managers?

Posted on 5/8/16 at 3:50 pm
Posted by Billder
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 3:50 pm
Emerging markets have been a tough play over the past few years. That being said, I feel like if you are a long-term investor you will be greatly rewarded in EM. Does the board have any favorite EM funds? I feel like EM is not a place that you would want index exposure. Any input would be appreciated.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 5/8/16 at 4:45 pm to
You should look up the Bloomberg Master's In Business podcast and listen to the interview with John Bogle...emerging markets are discussed.
Posted by bovine1
Walnut Ridge,AR via Tallulah,LA
Member since Dec 2004
1280 posts
Posted on 5/8/16 at 7:17 pm to
I own EMF. Templeton I think is good. I like closed end funds at a large historical discount.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18915 posts
Posted on 5/8/16 at 7:23 pm to
Do you feel safe with that low volume? It's around 25,000 per day

Edit: I own VWO, but I bought too early at $38
This post was edited on 5/8/16 at 8:23 pm
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28117 posts
Posted on 5/8/16 at 8:19 pm to
Cliffs?
Posted by Billder
Where you live
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 8:27 am to
Good info guys. Thanks.

Bovine1, EMF looks very aggressive but compelling. Looks to be a good dollar-cost average play. On this specific fund, what discount would be an attractive entry point? Thanks again!
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 4:01 pm to
You have enough exposure to EM within a US index fund...US companies are international and their participating...plus it's safer. He really thinks chasing EM's are fools gold and overtime you will lose.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26579 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 4:03 pm to
For Emerging market index funds you have to have an entry and exit point in my opinion.
Posted by bovine1
Walnut Ridge,AR via Tallulah,LA
Member since Dec 2004
1280 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 6:03 pm to
EMF is currently trading at a 11.51% discount. The 6 month avg. is 11.3%. The 3 yr. avg. is 9.06%. The largest discount recently was 13.34% in August 2015. I hope this is helpful. The low trading volume in a CEF doesn't bother me.
Posted by bovine1
Walnut Ridge,AR via Tallulah,LA
Member since Dec 2004
1280 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:55 pm to
I own VWO also. The January low on EMF was $8.65. I am basically a mean reverter. Anytime the discount is near it's bottom I get interested. That generally means the CEF involved is currently out of favor or the class itself is out of favor or both. As a contrarian mean reverter this is when I get interested. Usually I expect to be early and average down. You have to know your personality and figure that in when deciding when to enter. I'm currently looking at oil producers and fertilizer miners. GMO is one of my favorite sites because they are also basically mean reverters. Check out their 7 yr forecasts. Their two best projected categories are emerging stocks and timber.
Posted by Billder
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Member since Nov 2009
5223 posts
Posted on 5/10/16 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

I own VWO also. The January low on EMF was $8.65. I am basically a mean reverter. Anytime the discount is near it's bottom I get interested. That generally means the CEF involved is currently out of favor or the class itself is out of favor or both. As a contrarian mean reverter this is when I get interested. Usually I expect to be early and average down. You have to know your personality and figure that in when deciding when to enter. I'm currently looking at oil producers and fertilizer miners. GMO is one of my favorite sites because they are also basically mean reverters. Check out their 7 yr forecasts. Their two best projected categories are emerging stocks and timber.


Awesome info. That strategy sounds like an effective one. I will do some more digging. Thanks!
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26579 posts
Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:05 pm to
It is trading at a discount to what baseline, exactly?

Thanks
Posted by bovine1
Walnut Ridge,AR via Tallulah,LA
Member since Dec 2004
1280 posts
Posted on 5/10/16 at 4:46 pm to
Discount to it's Net Asset Value.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18915 posts
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:57 pm to
Bloomberg has some really informative podcasts for my commute. Thanks!
Posted by bovine1
Walnut Ridge,AR via Tallulah,LA
Member since Dec 2004
1280 posts
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:34 pm to
Morningstar is a good site for CEF info.. They track the discounts which is very helpful.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:49 pm to
Happy to help...also recommend The audiobook Super Forcasters by Philip Tetlock. He was an interview guest on the podcast. You'll realize how many pundits and market predictors are completely full of shite.
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