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Energy Transfer Partners-ETP

Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:52 pm
Posted by tipup
Member since Sep 2005
1649 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:52 pm
What are the negatives? 11+% yield.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82010 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:21 pm to
Might want to read up on their SXL merger
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:28 pm to
The negatives are oil prices are going nowhere but down long term and that dividend can probably will be slashed taking the equity with it. I wouldn't want any oil related names in my portfolio long term at this point, they've gone nowhere in 3 years overall and more than likely the future isn't too bright, much better growth to invest in.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82010 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:36 pm to
They were going to slash dividends until sxl bought them (lol not really, but that was the headline was). So now etp units will be converted to sxl units (1.5), but then sxl is going to become etp. They'll continue sxl dividend model, which will allow for future growth.
As for oil prices, they're midstream so that helps. Plus they'll be more diversified now.
They were not going to sustain that dividend growth, so that's what they came up with. Not sure if it's long term fix it it'll just be a short term band-aid.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24770 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:48 pm to
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Energy Transfer Partners-ETP
your accountant wants to stab you in the face for investing in that PTP
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53151 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

your accountant wants to stab you in the face for investing in that PTP



I don't do tax, but yeah, it's a pain in the arse.
Posted by raw dog
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
483 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:47 am to
So big now that it's more of a play on general U.S. production growth. Corporate governance though.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 9:12 am to
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your accountant wants to stab you in the face for investing in ANY PTP


Fixed it!

Seriously though, it doesn't bother me, but it costs. I would say the additional time I need to spend on each of those K-1s probably adds $25 to the cost of the tax prep, and it's $50 if they sell the SOB.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50337 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:53 am to
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they've gone nowhere in 3 years overall and more than likely the future isn't too bright, much better growth to invest in.


But they've gone somewhere in the last 1.5 years
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
6938 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:33 am to
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Fixed it!

Seriously though, it doesn't bother me, but it costs. I would say the additional time I need to spend on each of those K-1s probably adds $25 to the cost of the tax prep, and it's $50 if they sell the SOB.
And that is probably under billing them

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