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Credit Score (816) got whacked for no apparent reason.

Posted on 7/9/22 at 12:31 pm
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 7/9/22 at 12:31 pm
American Express sends me regular complimentary credit score updates (from TransUnion). Yesterday, I got an email from them with the subject line "We detected a change to your credit report".

My score went from 816 to 788 - overnight. I took a step back and tried to find a cause for the decrease since I don't recall doing anything substantially different from prior periods. My payment record is spotless (no lates). Why, with no changes to my financial situation, would my score get whacked.

Here are the only other factors that could have remotely (if at all) affected my score:
• My rent increased about 4%
• I started using PayPal BillPay to pay my Amex cards; just called Amex - no lates - all payment confirmed on time
• I got a new DEBIT card (Fold Card)
• I bought about $1k worth of Cryptocurrency (long shot)

I realize there are other components to consider, but nothing else has changed. What am I missing?






Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38886 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 12:33 pm to
Hard inquiries? Change in credit usage availability?
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 7/9/22 at 12:38 pm to
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Hard inquiries? Change in credit usage availability?
Normally, I get a USPS mailed hard-copy notice when someone does a hard-hit on my credit. Last one was about a year ago. ALL my credit card balances have been headed south.

Amex has a credit score department. I have a note to call them Monday. They will prob refer me to TransUnion. I know CreditKarma and all those "free" guys say pulling your own credit doesn't affect your score, but I'm leary about that.
This post was edited on 7/9/22 at 12:40 pm
Posted by castorinho
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/9/22 at 12:39 pm to
Why would you care about this lol
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 7/9/22 at 12:44 pm to
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Why would you care about this lol

How low should you let it go - without a reasonable explanation - before you get concerned?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/9/22 at 12:49 pm to
Vantage score doesn't really matter to anyone anyway
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82082 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 12:49 pm to
Use one your yearly freebies from one of the major credit reporting companies and pull your report to see if anything stands out in the past month.
Posted by deNYEd
Houston
Member since Jul 2007
9689 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 1:03 pm to
Easy, if there was no credit check for the fold card that only really leaves credit utilization. It doesn't matter if you pay your cards off every month. It matters what your balance is on the date that is reported to the agencies. The report date could be a day before you are paying off. You can do some research and figure out the report date for each institution. Although, let it go bro as there will not be any dif in your offerings from 788-816
Posted by tigerpawl
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Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 7/9/22 at 1:14 pm to
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Easy, if there was no credit check for the fold card that only really leaves credit utilization.
Understood, but score has been 800+ (and increasing) for 4 consecutive reporting periods, during which all CC balances have declined.
Posted by zephry801
Member since Dec 2017
434 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 1:44 pm to
Recession fears. Everyone's credit scores took a hit recently because they expect everyone will have to use credit more often going forward.





Really though, I have no idea
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73564 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 1:48 pm to
mine just hit 829

Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38886 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 2:02 pm to
I look at credit karma all the time
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16543 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 2:09 pm to
Is there an option to look at the various score factors? Based on what you said, the 3 areas I would look are utilization rate, hard inquiries (mail may not have arrived yet) and age of credit history. Debit card “should not” affect it, but maybe something closed due to inactivity?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119702 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 3:04 pm to
Credit score fluctuates
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
10932 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 3:06 pm to
They introduced the Social Credit Score recently comrade. Better start posting more gay shite.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
27063 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 3:32 pm to
As long as your credit score is good, these types of fluctuations don’t matter.

It’s ridiculous to obsess over it. It’s an automated process that just analyzes data. The blips will balance over time.

I haven’t looked at my credit rating in a decade, because it’s basically meaningless - unless it’s bad.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89703 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 9:00 pm to
A hard credit pull is 2 or 3 points, even if you were comparison shopping, that's no more than 6 to 8 points. This is 28 points.

Did you close an old account and maybe dropped your average credit age?

If no delinquencies, I would just do all your normal things. Figure out what is showing bad and run it down.

At the end of the day, a person is not going to pay more for (virtually all) credit at 788 versus 816, but still a concern because it was sudden, steep and you have no reasonable explanation for it.
Posted by cryptkeeper
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2018
154 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 9:04 pm to
I wouldn’t worry about it. I get a similar report through discover card each month and it fluctuates 30 points or so sometimes and I’ve only had 1 hard inquiry in the last 2 years. It used to bother me but I gave up on trying to figure it out.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35896 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 10:57 pm to
get rid of your credit cards.


- dave ramsey
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
5666 posts
Posted on 7/9/22 at 11:16 pm to
Once had my credit score (800s) drop a bit for no reason. It seems that one of my credit card banks unilaterally lowered my credit limit most likely because I had not used it in awhile or just some corporate decision. I always pay off all my card balances monthly and in a timely fashion. Nonetheless, some computer algorithm didn’t like that and…bingo, through no fault of my own, credit score went down slightly.
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