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Been following a vacant lot near me and I'm a little skeptical about the price drops
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:14 pm
Most of the small residential lost in my area are 80K plus. If you want anything where you could even think about putting a pool you would be looking at 140K+
I'm looking to build again so I've been keeping an eye on lots and the price movements. This is the listing history according to zillow:
9/8/23 - Initially listed at 82K
9/27/23 - Price drops 3K to 79K
11/22/23 - Price drops another 3K to 76K
12/7/23 - Price drops 9K to 67K
It's not common for residential lots to drop often if at all. I can't help but think there must be some red flag about this lot that is turning people off. It's a corner lot in a new portion of an existing neighborhood.
In your experience what sort of questions should I be asking before I pursue this?
I'm looking to build again so I've been keeping an eye on lots and the price movements. This is the listing history according to zillow:
9/8/23 - Initially listed at 82K
9/27/23 - Price drops 3K to 79K
11/22/23 - Price drops another 3K to 76K
12/7/23 - Price drops 9K to 67K
It's not common for residential lots to drop often if at all. I can't help but think there must be some red flag about this lot that is turning people off. It's a corner lot in a new portion of an existing neighborhood.
In your experience what sort of questions should I be asking before I pursue this?
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:23 pm to Powerman
just ask the listing agent. they will prob be honest
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:25 pm to Powerman
Someone dropped a house in my area to 225k and I thought the same. Someone bought it and sold it for 310k 2 months later. Someone people get hard up for money.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:34 pm to tigerclaw10
All I can think is maybe a small developer bit off more than they can chew
I'll call the listing agent tomorrow. There is another lot that's right down the street that has identical pricing and price movement other than the last 9K drop. Even on the same dates
I'll call the listing agent tomorrow. There is another lot that's right down the street that has identical pricing and price movement other than the last 9K drop. Even on the same dates
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:48 pm to Powerman
If it's in a neighborhood, a contractor probably bought a bunch of lots and this could be the last one.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 9:00 pm to tigerclaw10
You didn't give much information but I'd start here.
Call the realtor to get the story then call a different realtor to get that story. Meet the realtor/s at the property and stay there a while, try to go around 5-6 so people can see you there. Go back the next day same time you were there and saw people then talk to them about the lot.
And/or. Just go investigate, hit the courthouse and look thru the details/look for easements/liens/ past liens. Check the obvious like floodzone, insurance rates in the area, cost to get utilities to the home, crime, property tax, and especially make sure it wasn't an old dump or other things that could be a problem.
That last lot might be the dump for the contractor when he built all of his houses. Talk to the old homeowners, they might know.
Call the realtor to get the story then call a different realtor to get that story. Meet the realtor/s at the property and stay there a while, try to go around 5-6 so people can see you there. Go back the next day same time you were there and saw people then talk to them about the lot.
And/or. Just go investigate, hit the courthouse and look thru the details/look for easements/liens/ past liens. Check the obvious like floodzone, insurance rates in the area, cost to get utilities to the home, crime, property tax, and especially make sure it wasn't an old dump or other things that could be a problem.
That last lot might be the dump for the contractor when he built all of his houses. Talk to the old homeowners, they might know.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 9:09 pm to Powerman
Check the last sale, should be public record. Maybe just willing to take a smaller profit to get rid of it.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 9:28 pm to Powerman
Get a printout of the past years lot sales
Are they going up/down ?
What have other corner lots sold for ?
Some corner lots buildable areas get eatin up by having front and side street servitudes
Most corner lots have the garage on the side/rear . Do the restictions only allow for a front garage, which would be stupid ?
Maybe some weird servitudes?
is the side street a main entrance street, traffic ?
Are they going up/down ?
What have other corner lots sold for ?
Some corner lots buildable areas get eatin up by having front and side street servitudes
Most corner lots have the garage on the side/rear . Do the restictions only allow for a front garage, which would be stupid ?
Maybe some weird servitudes?
is the side street a main entrance street, traffic ?
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 1/10/24 at 9:41 pm to Powerman
Seller would be stupid to drop price unless desperate.
Prices we see today are going to be low compare to what we will see in 5 years
Prices we see today are going to be low compare to what we will see in 5 years
Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:18 pm to SlidellCajun
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Seller would be stupid to drop price unless desperate.
That's what I'm thinking. And the fact that no one has made a move on it is a little concerning. At the end of the day 15K isn't much in the scheme of things but it's still enough to raise some eyebrows. Particularly how quickly they've tanked the listing price.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 6:23 am to Powerman
quote:
In your experience what sort of questions should I be asking before I pursue this?
Basic things like underground ROW/utilities/pipelines that may limit development, surface rights, title search, etc. After that I wouldn't be overly worried about it. Likely someone who bought it years ago expecting to develop and never did. So now they're just trying to get off of it. $15k reduction in 3 months isn't that outlandish in this market, properties are getting stale and sellers are getting worried it may get worse.
Even at $67k I would go in much lower, knowing that they are showing desperate/flexible pricing.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:00 am to southside
Look up the owner OP and what they paid. As said if it’s a developer or contractor they simply may be looking to reduce their liability and portfolio to concentrate their assets elsewhere.
You are most likely over thinking it imo. I don’t think it’s as much a sellers market universally as some like to think.
You are most likely over thinking it imo. I don’t think it’s as much a sellers market universally as some like to think.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:51 am to Powerman
This is a little out of what you're asking about so not much relevance. There is a golf course in Weatherford Tx (Canyon West). The houses out there are what I would call mid-high end homes. I'd say homes are in the $800k+ range. There are two houses on the 4th hole that got to the end of the framing stage, then they just sat for the last several years. They have the OSB on the roof but no shingles. Tyvek siding on the outside but no masonry done. Wood is absolutely toast at this point. I got paired up with a guy that lived on the course, and he said that they didn't pour any piers for the house and the soil out there called for it. Apparently the builder ran out of money. At this point, anyone buying the lot, is going to have to absolutely tear everything down and start from 0. Builders do run out of money, and especially given the instability over the last few years of building materials, could be anything.
I'd be mostly concerned about if there is any nuisances on neighboring lots, building restrictions for the lot, and like someone else said, is there anything under the ground that's going to prevent you from doing what you want to do. Is the lot an awkward size or similar sized to the neighbors?
I'd be mostly concerned about if there is any nuisances on neighboring lots, building restrictions for the lot, and like someone else said, is there anything under the ground that's going to prevent you from doing what you want to do. Is the lot an awkward size or similar sized to the neighbors?
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:54 am to SlidellCajun
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Prices we see today are going to be low compare to what we will see in 5 years
It's pretty disturbing to go back 10-15 years ago and look at what lots and houses in general were worth compared to today. I had an opportunity to buy a 10 acre property for $120k and thought it was about $20k too much. The 5 acre property on my street sold for $200k 2 months ago.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:24 am to Powerman
We have a lot in our neighborhood that is one of the last at that same price level and has been unsold for probably 15 years. It’s a pretty severe slope and original developer dug a footprint for a basement house but never moved forward. Our best guess is that it could be unbuildable due to the prior excavation and left to right slope…or at a minimum it would be a weird house.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 4:36 pm to Powerman
Make an offer contingent on feasibility study.
Check with the county/parish to make sure it’s a permittable lot of record.
Wetland delineation study if there are wetlands in the area.
Geotechnical survey if soil conditions are sketchy in the surrounding area.
Verify setbacks to make sure there are no easements or other issues.
Check with the county/parish to make sure it’s a permittable lot of record.
Wetland delineation study if there are wetlands in the area.
Geotechnical survey if soil conditions are sketchy in the surrounding area.
Verify setbacks to make sure there are no easements or other issues.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 4:51 pm to Powerman
Any property on the market means someone wants to get rid of it.
You should go with due diligence anyway, but price drops aren't that much of a red flag. If you're not getting offers you might be asking too much. Price changes cause a property to reappear on the daily report.
If you have a buyer's agent they can tell you if the property has been under contract and went back on the market, or if it's stayed on the market the whole time (which means no full price offers).
You should go with due diligence anyway, but price drops aren't that much of a red flag. If you're not getting offers you might be asking too much. Price changes cause a property to reappear on the daily report.
If you have a buyer's agent they can tell you if the property has been under contract and went back on the market, or if it's stayed on the market the whole time (which means no full price offers).
Posted on 1/11/24 at 5:14 pm to Powerman
Construction costs are out of whack in relation to the value of surrounding housing would be my guess.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:40 am to Powerman
What’s the address? I’ll evaluate it for you from the information I can gather.
I handle most of the land sales in our brokerage because most agents hate dealing with vacant land.
I handle most of the land sales in our brokerage because most agents hate dealing with vacant land.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:25 pm to Powerman
If you haven’t already get a copy of the plat, maybe location of easements and/or building lot line restrictions are hurting value.
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