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At what APR does it make sense to pay off mortgage early?
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:13 am
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:33 am to rpg37
IMO, APR is one of the less important factors when deciding whether to pay off a mortgage early.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:34 am to Huey Lewis
What do you look at to make this decision?
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:25 am to rpg37
5% or up is a pretty good guaranteed return.
My mortgage is at 3.75 or something like that but I am paying extra on it every month anyway. It's the only debt I have that isn't making me money so I want to get it knocked out. From a numbers standpoint my decision is wrong. But I think my quality of life will be substantially greater if I don't have that debt hanging over me.
My mortgage is at 3.75 or something like that but I am paying extra on it every month anyway. It's the only debt I have that isn't making me money so I want to get it knocked out. From a numbers standpoint my decision is wrong. But I think my quality of life will be substantially greater if I don't have that debt hanging over me.
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 8:26 am
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:36 am to I Love Bama
Yeah, closing in on second home now and locked in at 4.25. My first was 3.5%. That .75% makes a difference. I have a total of $10k in debt between credit cards and student loans. I recently paid off my car so these will be knocked out in a few months. Beginning in December, I'll be saving $2,500 a month easy and I thought about what to do with it.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 2:31 pm to I Love Bama
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My mortgage is at 3.75 or something like that but I am paying extra on it every month anyway. It's the only debt I have that isn't making me money so I want to get it knocked out. From a numbers standpoint my decision is wrong. But I think my quality of life will be substantially greater if I don't have that debt hanging over me.
This. Financial security is worth way more than you pay for it. Living in a paid off home should be the goal of every homeowner.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 2:38 pm to NYNolaguy1
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This. Financial security is worth way more than you pay for it. Living in a paid off home should be the goal of every homeowner.
This. Having my cash in an easily accessible investment is worth way more to me than having my money tied up in my mortgage at a tax deductible 3.25%.
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 6/22/15 at 4:52 pm to rpg37
Short, rule of thumb answer for me: the interest rate that exceeds the average annual return that I can earn from my investments. At that point, I'm better off using my money to retire the debt than investing it. My mortgage rate is 3%, so that better not happen until there's a busty nurse asking me if I'm ready for my sponge bath at "the home".
Posted on 6/23/15 at 9:34 am to I Love Bama
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I think my quality of life will be substantially greater if I don't have that debt hanging over me.
Absolutely! The freedom of having no debt is amazing.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 9:40 am to LSUAfro
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Afro
I get and agree with what you're saying. However, rushing to pay off the mortgage and "locking" money into your home seems like a contradiction to your desire to remain liquid.
Now, if you've built up your nest egg to a suitable level and then begin attacking principal, I'm right there with you.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 9:59 am to iknowmorethanyou
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However, rushing to pay off the mortgage and "locking" money into your home seems like a contradiction to your desire to remain liquid.
Completely agree . I was trying to be contradictory.
I understand the desire to be debt free and the appeal that provides to some, but the appeal of having that "extra" money in a relatively liquid vehicle is way more appealing to me in the current mortgage rate environment.
This post was edited on 6/23/15 at 10:01 am
Posted on 6/23/15 at 6:13 pm to Jag_Warrior
I understand your premise Jag but with one caveat.
You have to do better than the 3% AFTER taxes and fees charged by your broker. It can be done reasonably easy at 3% but once that number gets to 5% it gets hard.
I like owning things free and clear. Financially, I see why many say I am wrong. But good sleep and peace of mind are invaluable.
You have to do better than the 3% AFTER taxes and fees charged by your broker. It can be done reasonably easy at 3% but once that number gets to 5% it gets hard.
I like owning things free and clear. Financially, I see why many say I am wrong. But good sleep and peace of mind are invaluable.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 7:22 pm to SECdragonmaster
Yes, that's true. And on the flip side, I'd also have to consider the tax benefits of the interest deduction.
But yes, the higher the interest rate, the tighter the spread would probably be... and I'd be more likely to pay it off early.
I would not criticize your view on the matter though. The numbers aside, debt affects all of us differently. Six or seven figure debt, that would allow me to pursue profitable business ventures, wouldn't bother me in the least. But when BofA charged me a couple of bucks in interest, when *I* mistakenly typed a balance payment in wrong, I was on the phone like it was going to break me. They removed the interest charge for me - probably to shut me up and get me off the phone. But it was just the idea that I was paying interest, that wasn't in my favor, that really bothered me.
But yes, the higher the interest rate, the tighter the spread would probably be... and I'd be more likely to pay it off early.
I would not criticize your view on the matter though. The numbers aside, debt affects all of us differently. Six or seven figure debt, that would allow me to pursue profitable business ventures, wouldn't bother me in the least. But when BofA charged me a couple of bucks in interest, when *I* mistakenly typed a balance payment in wrong, I was on the phone like it was going to break me. They removed the interest charge for me - probably to shut me up and get me off the phone. But it was just the idea that I was paying interest, that wasn't in my favor, that really bothered me.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 8:24 pm to Jag_Warrior
I would build up savings/emergency investments first. Your mortgage and taxes still are due when you aren't working and should cover time needed to sell home also.
After that I personally split between paying off and investing. Think of it as diversifying your portfolio between guaranteed return of 4.25% and stocks.
After that I personally split between paying off and investing. Think of it as diversifying your portfolio between guaranteed return of 4.25% and stocks.
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