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Anyone done a backdoor IRA?
Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:24 pm
We contributed in excess to the Roth IRA. I was made aware of a way to keep the excess in the Roth IRA by converting it to a traditional IRA and then back to Roth IRA? Confusing for a finance novice like myself...
Posted on 2/21/17 at 1:54 pm to TulaneUVA
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We contributed in excess to the Roth IRA. I was made aware of a way to keep the excess in the Roth IRA by converting it to a traditional IRA and then back to Roth IRA? Confusing for a finance novice like myself...
Usually a backdoor roth IRA means that you make too much income to make a normal roth IRA contribution, so instead you make a traditional IRA contribution (no income limits there), then convert it to a Roth. The situation is sounds like you are referring to is that you contributed more than the $5,500 per year. I don't think there is any way to legally exceed those contribution limits.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 1:59 pm to GeneralLee
Sorry, I should clarify. Our combined income allows us to contribute less than $5500 and we already contributed the full $5500. The excess amount would be backdoor'd and the total amount would still be $5500.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 2:13 pm to GeneralLee
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Usually a backdoor roth IRA means that you make too much income to make a normal roth IRA contribution, so instead you make a traditional IRA contribution (no income limits there), then convert it to a Roth.
I'm wondering about this process as you've described, if you would be so kind as to elaborate on necessary steps or advice. Thanks.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 2:26 pm to TulaneUVA
quote:Is this the Money Talk Board's version of the O-T's "PIIHB"??
Anyone done a backdoor IRA?
Posted on 2/21/17 at 4:09 pm to LSURussian
It's PIIIRSB
Put it in IRS butt
Put it in IRS butt
Posted on 2/21/17 at 4:48 pm to TulaneUVA
I would keep it simple and make a $5500 contribution to a traditional IRA, convert to Roth, fill out Form 8606 next tax season.
Careful if you have a non-zero balance in a traditional account from previous years.
Careful if you have a non-zero balance in a traditional account from previous years.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 5:30 pm to TulaneUVA
Consult a tax professional.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 6:06 pm to TulaneUVA
You need to perform a recharacterization to move the money back to a traditional IRA as a non-deductible contribution. Then you can convert it to a Roth IRA. I did this a few years ago when I screwed up accidentally.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 7:40 pm to geauxbears08
What do you do with the earnings you earned on the excess contribution? I made like $200 off the excess. Where does it reside?
ETA: I would suppose since the excess is coming right back into the Roth IRA via the backdoor, then the earnings just stay in the Roth IRA as if nothing happened?
ETA: I would suppose since the excess is coming right back into the Roth IRA via the backdoor, then the earnings just stay in the Roth IRA as if nothing happened?
This post was edited on 2/21/17 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:59 am to TulaneUVA
That's a good question... I caught my mistake quickly and the contribution was into a cash settlement fund so I didn't have any capital gains. My thought is that if you recharacterize it, the gains will also be recharacterized back to the traditional. Then when you do the conversion you would unfortunately owe tax on the gains only.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 6:32 am to LSUKTR
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Careful if you have a non-zero balance in a traditional account from previous years.
Don't overlook this advice. If you already have a traditional IRA, with a balance, there will be other tax consequences.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:03 am to Wade Phillips
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I'm wondering about this process as you've described, if you would be so kind as to elaborate on necessary steps or advice. Thanks.
There are multiple threads on here in the past about backdoor roth IRA's. The key is that you need to have a traditional IRA that has zero taxable gains in it. If you have a traditional IRA with taxable gains in it then it gets a lot more complicated. I put a link below to a decent article on the subject. On my scottrade accounts, I fill out what's known as a direct conversion request form to accomplish the transaction.
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