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Anybody else using their HSA as a retirement vehicle?

Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:05 am
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10549 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:05 am
Apparently I was slow to learn you can take distributions for non medical expenses penalty free at 65.

That's an extra $8300 a year you can put away tax free for retirement for you young married baws.

I have refused to use any HSA funds for medical expenses since I learned this fact.

This should be talked about more IMO.
Posted by LSUSports247
Member since Apr 2007
645 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:07 am to
I would like to but Braces, Dental work, glasses, the Flu, etc for the family seems to eat the money up each year
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30541 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:10 am to
agreed. I have been maxing it out for quite a few years. its great
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10549 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:12 am to
Sorry to hear that my man but it's understandable. I have young kids and it certainly is a sacrifice, but thats a potential another $500K over 25 years.

I'm going to try my best to keep it going. Just thought I'd share.
Posted by LSUcam7
FL
Member since Sep 2016
7902 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:13 am to
I try to max the HSA and just pay cash for current medical expenses. God willing, my family’s med bills have been low and will stay low.
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
6534 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:14 am to
Penalty free but not tax free at age 65 non-medical expenses from what I understand. Still a great benefit. Using it as much as possible.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6377 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:14 am to
Yes I max mine every year - HSA is triple tax advantaged it doesn't get much better than that.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:22 am to
I'll give you another good fact.

HSA accounts don't have an RMD.

But I will also give you one bad fact.

If anyone other than a surviving spouse inherits the account, it is an immediate taxable distribution in the year of inheritance, to the beneficiary.
This post was edited on 3/22/24 at 8:25 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:27 am to
quote:

Penalty free but not tax free at age 65 non-medical expenses from what I understand. Still a great benefit. Using it as much as possible.



This, which kind of loses the triple tax benefit it has for medical expenses.

What you CAN use it to pay for is once you have medicare is medicare premiums B/C/D which is pretty sweet. You could truly have "premium free" medicare in those aspects in retirement using HSA funds to pay for that which is pretty sweet. Cant use HSA funds (tax free/penalty free) to pay for premiums up until you're on medicare at 65 or older.

Thats kind of what I'm going to use my HSA to pay for then to keep the triple tax advantage of it. We also use it as a slush fund to pay for medical expenses now but putting $8300/yr (well i put $7400, company does $900) into it we wont typically come close to spending near that much in the year on medical expenses. We only reimburse office/hospital visits not prescriptions.

Having a newborn last year has certainly wiped into it a bit though, especially with a wife who seems like shes at the dentist every other day right now
This post was edited on 3/22/24 at 8:29 am
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29676 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:38 am to
Can you expand of this?

You max out your HSA and then put it into a retirement account? You aren’t required to use it on medical expenses?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:43 am to
quote:

You max out your HSA and then put it into a retirement account? You aren’t required to use it on medical expenses?


When you turn 65, the penalty for not using it for medical expenses goes away.

It becomes a non-qualified distribution - which is taxable, but not penalized. That makes it similar to an IRA, etc.

Whereas before age 65, it would be taxable AND penalized.

Many HSAs allow you to invest the balance in a portfolio once you reach a certain value.

Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
5807 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:59 am to
I contribute the max every year, but my wife goes to some sort of doctor 3 times a week it seems so I have very little carryover each year
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30541 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 9:02 am to
quote:

Many HSAs allow you to invest the balance in a portfolio once you reach a certain value.




yep I think mine forces me to keep $1000 or so in "cash" but I am free to invest the rest. have around 50K last time I looked
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2115 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 9:22 am to
If you can afford to pay the medical expenses now out of pocket, keep funds growing in HSA and save receipts. You can use those to take withdrawals tax & penalty free later at any age.
Posted by LSUSports247
Member since Apr 2007
645 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 9:28 am to
Kids are getting older so last year was the first time I was able to move money to the investment side. I have it set now to move anytime time my balance gets over $2500
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3106 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 9:39 am to
I would if I was offered a HSA.
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
2297 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:19 am to
quote:

Penalty free but not tax free at age 65 non-medical expenses from what I understand. Still a great benefit. Using it as much as possible.


This is true, but if you save your medical receipts, you can reimburse yourself at any time for those and it will be penalty- and tax-free. The list of reimbursable expenses expanded greatly in 2020 as well, now including OTC meds, first aid supplies, etc. Even things like modifying your home for accessibility (ramps, widening doorways) qualify as reimbursable. LINK
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29676 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:52 am to
quote:

LSUFanHouston


Ty sir!
Posted by Lawyers_Guns_Money
Member since Apr 2015
393 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 11:01 am to
Yes, max out my HSA.

Never taken a penny out of it, paid for everything out of pocket.
Posted by GrizzlyAlloy
Member since Aug 2020
1632 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 12:52 pm to
It is my understanding that if you keep the receipts for medical payments made out of pocket, you can take that money out without penalty in retirement.

I've paid everything out of pocket and have maxed mine for the last 5 years. I'm 35.
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