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re: Annual expenses for a college grad?

Posted on 5/29/13 at 8:18 am to
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 8:18 am to
Don't try to reason with Lnchbx. He's a fricking idiot.
Posted by CQQ
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 8:24 am to
Open a mint.com account. I'm not sure how it's viewed on this board but it's opened my eyes to where our money actually gets allocated. We don't spend a lot but we've cut back small stuff and you can see it adding up. You can also add any accounts you have (bank accounts, 401k/IRA, mortgage, cars, etc.) so you can get a sense of what your actual net worth is. Unfortunately for me, my wife has a large amount of student loans so our net worth is somewhere around -$40,000

Wait, that's not funny


This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 8:25 am
Posted by TheDiesel
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 8:30 am to
Just finished my first year out of college and the usual bills are the same, but I added 401k, Roth, Insurance to the mix.

So my monthly expenses are:

Rent/Utilities
Cable
Electricity
Cellphone
Car/Gas
Food/Credit Card

Honestly not much different than college so the big thing is to make a savings plan as soon as possible and stick to it. How much you need to live on comfortably is up to you. I do well in Houston as an engineer but I still have a roommate even though I could afford my own place.

eta: I read A Random Walk Down Wall Street and it is definitely a must read.
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 8:32 am
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 8:36 am to
quote:

If there is one thing I will spend money on it is exactly what you just said



That's why I named those

If you put it off 10 years then you can buy better shite
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 10:16 am to
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Don't try to reason with Lnchbx. He's a fricking idiot.





Says the guy that's sole purpose in life was to brag at his high school reunion.
Posted by JAE20
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 12:29 pm to
My expenses aren't very high at the moment, probably around 15k/yr. What scared me was the inclusion of new bills after college:
Cell Phone
Car insurance
Health insurance
Savings
Etc

Seems like that stuff adds up fast.
Posted by Chris4x4gill2
North Alabama
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 12:49 pm to
These things will be the same as they are now though. Except possibly Health Insurance.

Even if your not paying them now, someone is. Ask your parents for the monthly bill associated with each and work it into your budget.

Do you have a job lined up?

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

My expenses aren't very high at the moment, probably around 15k/yr. What scared me was the inclusion of new bills after college:
Cell Phone
Car insurance
Health insurance
Savings
Etc

Seems like that stuff adds up fast.



It all does. As long as you don't go a on a giant spending spree and make sure to pay yourself as others have said, you'll be OK.

Having said that, don't be afraid to make a splurge purchase. You worked hard to get your degree and a career, nothing wrong with having a little fun. Just make sure everything else is taken care of first
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

My expenses aren't very high at the moment, probably around 15k/yr. What scared me was the inclusion of new bills after college: Cell Phone Car insurance Health insurance Savings Etc Seems like that stuff adds up fast. 


it does, it can be overwhelming starting out. A word of advice:

When you get your paycheck, before paying any bills, take at least 10% off the top to save and invest. Pay yourself first. Make it a habit. You'll be amazed what a difference this habit makes in your finances. My stepfather told me to do it when I got my first job at age 15, I waited till I was 24 to actually follow his advice, and I wish I go back in time and kick my 15 year old self in the arse.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 1:16 pm to
I was reading Wealthy Barber, and they talk about saving 15%, and then talk about retirement saving. Should these be viewed as two separate things? I was kind of confused by that.
Posted by TheDiesel
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:06 pm to
Yes, that 15% is retirement savings. It is hard to do and should be a goal.
Posted by JAE20
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:25 pm to
No job yet, I plan on working on that diligently in the fall along with another internship. I have no clue where to start so ill be frequenting the career services center and counselors
Posted by BayouBengal
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

on average how much it costs a college grad to live decently.


It's all relative. Your biggest expense will be your living situation. Having a roommate makes a huge difference as you can rent a nicer place and split the common utilities like cable, internet, electricity, etc... Once upon a time I lived fine on 40k. My apartment at the time was $750/month and I never felt like I was struggling to make ends meet. I'm good about living within my means though.

Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:30 pm to
I'd also search google for whatever your field will be, find companies in the area, and contact them directly.
Posted by sneakytiger
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:35 pm to
The best thing I learned in college was a simple piece of advice from a favorite accounting professor: Live below your means.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

Having a roommate makes a huge difference as you can rent a nicer place and split the common utilities like cable, internet, electricity, etc..


My last year of law school I was paying less than $400 a month rent, then I got a job and that became $850 a month with $140 cable bill and roughly $110 to $130 electric bill all on my own.

Moving to new apartment with the SO and even thought the rent is now $1500 a month my share drops to $750. Cable I renegotiated down to 115 which only half is mine and the electric bill should rise just a bit overall.

The savings should come out to 1,200 on rent and 1,050 cable per year. Adds up.
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 2:39 pm
Posted by wegotdatwood
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:48 pm to
You have a job during college?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

I was reading Wealthy Barber, and they talk about saving 15%, and then talk about retirement saving. Should these be viewed as two separate things? I was kind of confused by that.


15% is the goal (and eventually much more than that), but getting in the habit of saving a percentage of your paycheck before paying bills and buying toys is the most important. The behavior is more important than the percentage.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:21 pm to
i've seen this priority list:
1. 401k up to company match
2. max roth
3. max 401k

Good start?
Posted by TheDiesel
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Member since Feb 2010
2608 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:22 pm to
Definitely
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