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re: Akebia Therapeutics (AKBA)- Vadadustat FDA Approved AT LAST!!

Posted on 3/28/24 at 8:34 am to
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18903 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 8:34 am to
quote:

Is this a “sell the news” situation?

Yes
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56242 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 9:00 am to
While I hoped for a pop up to 4 or so to go ahead and just sell and make some quick profit, I am acually a little more excited for a long hold. By summer of 2025 you should see revenues and profits up, and the ability to secure funding should allow a nice smooth roll out of this new medication. If they capture the market share they should we may have a pretty good run when earnings come out Q2 or Q3 2025.
Posted by LSUcam7
FL
Member since Sep 2016
7903 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 9:14 am to
quote:

Not sure why the delay until January 2025


In my own words, management stated they start a “road show,” promoting the drug in October ‘24, revenues start to reflect Q1/2 ‘25.

The rationale for not immediately rushing to physicians; they want to best ensure a successful launch. My guess is they’ve been laser focused on FDA.. now that the drug is green lit, they change focus on securing sales.

I take it as a healthy sign for the long term. Successful launch and long term cash flows > rush launch and immediate share price reaction.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18903 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 9:18 am to
quote:

The rationale for not immediately rushing to physicians; they want to best ensure a successful launch.
This seems wise, and we are in a good buy zone.

I'm more comfortable buying AKBA at 2.25 than I am buying the stock that shall not be named at $5.
This post was edited on 3/28/24 at 9:21 am
Posted by Caymus
Houston
Member since Jul 2015
1134 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:10 am to
quote:

I'm more comfortable buying AKBA at 2.25 than I am buying the stock that shall not be named at $5.


No Peter no problems.
Posted by LChama
Member since May 2020
1651 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:17 am to
I bet nobody predicted this
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75175 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:17 am to
Ouch. Down 12% today.
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
1381 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:17 am to
this has been comical so far, back under $2. probably just gonna box these shares up and put them in my attic with the rest of my bags and check back in sometime in 2025.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56242 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:21 am to
This further exemplifies my lack of understanding markets or investments. This is why I should stick with mutual funds, set it and forget it.
That said, I am really comfortable with AKBA, I think in 18 months I will be very happy.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18903 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:27 am to
quote:

I bet nobody predicted this

I didn't, but I'm not shocked. Seen it before.

Note to self: A big run up indicates a sell off.
Since launch won't be until 2025, big money knows it has plenty of time to load up.

Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18903 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Ouch. Down 12% today.

Spend some money for once.
Posted by TigerDoug
Lees Summit
Member since Mar 2017
586 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:28 am to
I guess my AH buys yesterday at 1.98 and 1.99 didn't go as planned..
I don't get this market as well...
Posted by LSUcam7
FL
Member since Sep 2016
7903 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:47 am to
Related to the launch (from 3/28 call):

“ Now let's get a bit more granular about what we plan to do over the coming year. After careful analysis, we have decided to make Vase available to the market in January 2025 to coincide with its expected TDAPA desgination.
We plan to file for TDAPA sometime in mid-Q2 and we will officially launch Vafseo in January. As a reminder, TDAPA designation is assigned six months post application following acceptance, which is only completed once per quarter.
We expect our TDAPA application to be accepted in July, our Vafseo's specific Hexvix code to be signed in October and TDAPA designation in January.

At launch, we expect the product will be reimbursed and widely available and accessible to patients with rapid adoption expected as providers can begin to realize the TDAPA economics. This will change from our previous strategy to file for TDAPA immediately upon approval. Our rationale was predicated on several factors.

First, dialysis organizations need at least six months to establish treatment protocols with new agents. During this time, Akebia and its partner would be contracting with dialysis organizations and supporting the US with Medicare engagement to solidify reimbursement pathways beyond TDAPA. Another benefit of the January 2025 launch is the potential to drive preferential selection of the newest HIF activator.

Further, we believe it is an advantage to leverage ongoing work at dialysis organizations as they prepare for phosphate binders to transition from Medicare Part D to the bottled environment. Also currently anticipated for January 2025. As you noted, TAPA was designated design to incentivize the use of innovative products. We understand these incentives. And over the next nine months will contract with Vafseo that will encourage patient access, utilization and growth.
During this time we will able to framework and we believe that we can be more successful upon launch to drive demand and ultimately better capitalize on the market opportunity.

Lastly, we have a full slate of conversation and tradeshows where we plan to introduce Vase to healthcare professionals that culminate with the American Society of Nephrology Kidney Week Annual Meeting planned to be held October 24 through 27 in San Diego ahead of Vascos official mark to market entry.

In summary, throughout 2024, our entire team will be working with the goal to position Vafseo as the next standard of care, with prescribers advocating them on the advantages of Vase and of once daily oral dosing. We will also be building broad accessibility to our drug across the payer universe representing various [indiscernible]. While we are not disclosing the Vase list price today, we are broadly thinking in terms of aligning our product price with the significant value we believe is offered by our brand. We expect to provide regular updates on our contracting progress and we'll share list price by mid-year.”

Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75175 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:05 am to
Excuse me?
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18903 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 3:15 pm to
CARA, AUPH, AKBA,

Down 25%, Down 85%, Down 15%

Ouch, Ouch, Ouch.

"I like $2-3 entry points"

Well buy some already!
Posted by LChama
Member since May 2020
1651 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:21 am to
Being shorted due to 2025 launch. New target is $6.00 by wainwright
Posted by StonewallJack
Member since Apr 2008
685 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:56 am to
quote:

Being shorted due to 2025 launch. New target is $6.00 by wainwright



Buy the Rumor and Sell the News
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18903 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 8:45 am to
All good. Truly a great 12 month opportunity. No one can wait more than two weeks anymore
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
1381 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 9:05 am to
frick it...im loading up with a limit order at $1.50 if we get there.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56242 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

frick it...im loading up with a limit order at $1.50 if we get there.


not loading up, but did go ahead and get 300 more shares at 1.53
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