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re: Airbnb/rental covid relief

Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by TigreB77
Member since Jun 2019
92 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:15 pm to
I agree, sell now. I don’t think Airbnb will rebound in Nola for quite awhile. If not, look into long term tenants, but make sure they are screened as there is the moratorium on evictions. I feel for your dad though, I owned 2 Airbnb’s in Nola, but sold after all the regulations from city hall. Your dad needs to be flexible.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 1:20 pm
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24937 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:16 pm to
So any bad investment should get bailed out?

Why can't OP's dad just rent out his units on a yearly lease?
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 1:20 pm
Posted by ReyCamino
70116
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:24 pm to
So you're saying every business that applied for part of the $349 billion PPP was a bad investment?

It is due to the government shutting everything down that the STRs are losing money. Not because of anything the owner did.

Posted by lsuguy13
RIP MATT
Member since Mar 2004
9509 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:25 pm to
That’s what he seems to be saying
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27129 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:32 pm to
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But if I own short term rentals, frick me?


Live by the sword. Die by the sword. STR's operate in a legal grey area in most communities. Don't expect people to be rushing to bail them out.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24937 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

So you're saying every business that applied for part of the $349 billion PPP was a bad investment?


How would you extrapolate that from what I said?
Posted by ReyCamino
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:48 pm to
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How would you extrapolate that from what I said?


Maybe I incorrectly assumed that you implied STR's were a bad investment, and that the small businesses that applied for the PPP were not. If so, my bad.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72884 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Are there any programs out there to help with loss income for Short term rentals?



the EIDL loans were for landlords also. It is all over bigger Pockets. Posted here over and over. I applied just to have reserves on top of my reserves(not knowing how bad this would get or how long it would last) but all my tenants but 1 paid this month. Way better than I expected. WHere have you been? he shoulda applied a month ago like so many here did. Tell him to try now. All they can do is say no.

oh and FTR i DO NOT do STR's.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 1:54 pm
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

It is due to the government shutting everything down that the STRs are losing money. Not because of anything the owner did.


Sounds like the owner in these cases didn’t have any plan for 1-2 months vacancy. Who buys a second property for rental purposes (whether it’s a STR or a yearly tenant), without factoring in a little vacancy? You want these people bailed out when the unit’s air conditioner breaks as well? There’s a myriad of costs beyond principle, taxes, interest and insurance that should be considered to determine if the numbers work.

An STR is inherently risky, especially if you aren’t putting much down. The income property movement has been so smooth for years now that people haven’t weighed the risks or considered their exit strategies
Posted by ReyCamino
70116
Member since Feb 2019
82 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:18 pm to
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You want these people bailed out when the unit’s air conditioner breaks as well?


If it's the government that goes in and breaks it, then yes.

Look, I see what you're saying, but it appears that the downvoters here are OK with the multi-million dollar "small businesses" getting bailed out, but the guy who owns STR's should have handled his finances better and not gotten himself in that situation.

My point was not that STR owners should have money in reserves for times of vacancy, but that if Ruth's Chris can get $20 million (bailout?), why can't an STR owner get $2000 for operating expenses during a government imposed shutdown?
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 2:19 pm
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:20 pm to
most of the new str owners got in too late to the game so now they're crying

this seems to be your dad lol
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

the guy who owns STR's should have handled his finances better and not gotten himself in that situation.


yes?

most of these guys jumped into the airbnb gold rush after it peaked 3-5 years ago, i have zero sympathies for them
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 2:23 pm
Posted by lsuguy13
RIP MATT
Member since Mar 2004
9509 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 3:16 pm to
Naw dad not crying about it. I was just curious thanks for your concern
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
1960 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 3:46 pm to
if he’s a good businessman like you say, then he’s aware of all of the government loans and options he has. Don’t worry, I’m sure he will still be able to pay your car note.
Posted by lsuguy13
RIP MATT
Member since Mar 2004
9509 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:52 pm to
Pay my own and my own house etc. once upon a time I was a spoiled brat and that happened but eventually grew up.

And yeah he got an edil or something like that.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22458 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 5:05 pm to
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I don’t think calling him “greedy” is the right term at all. He’s a very successful businessman and has his hand in different revenue streams


Then it sounds like he doesn’t need to be reaching in all our pockets
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24839 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 8:19 pm to
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Sooo anything we can do? What did the article say? I assume it behind a paywall?


Sell?
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 8:19 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20505 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:08 am to
I don’t think a rental property should have any more assistance then any other business shut down by the government, but goodness at the amount of people in here that think they should get less. It’s nothing but a small business at the end of the day.
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