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A market abuse complaint has been filed against JPM CEO Jamie Dimon

Posted on 9/22/17 at 7:19 am
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 7:19 am
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I thought you crypto-currency cheerleaders were against government and securities regulation?

Does anyone seriously think that Jamie Dimon purposefully masterminded this grand scheme to pick up a whole 9 bitcoins? (Allegedly, I'm not sure there is solid proof that it was actually JPMorgan that purchased the coins.)

JPM had top line revenue last year of $90bn; bitcoins market cap is $65bn. I can assure this isn't some grand scheme from JPMorgan to scoop up bitcoins cheap.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90510 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 8:18 am to
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pick up a whole 9 bitcoins


Nine, or you know ninety five like your linked article says.

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Does anyone seriously think that Jamie Dimon purposefully masterminded this grand scheme


No. He just jumped in with his little opinion after the Chinese govt lowered the boom. He came in off the bench at the 1 yard line and scored after the team drove the other 98 yards.

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Allegedly, I'm not sure there is solid proof that it was actually JPMorgan that purchased the coins.) 



Apparently the picture was leaked from an insider with access to the institutional accounts.

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 I can assure this isn't some grand scheme from JPMorgan to scoop up bitcoins cheap


No you can't. What you could of said is that JP Morgan is in the business of making money and btc at $3k was a great money making opportunity, which it was

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I thought you crypto-currency cheerleaders were against government and securities regulation


If you've read in the big thread, all of us have supported regulation in the current market, specifically ICOs
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 8:33 am to
JPMorgan has $2.4 TRILLION dollars AUM.

But yeah, they're taking over crytocurrency with $350k worth of bitcoins.

Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 8:36 am to
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But yeah, they're taking over crytocurrency with $350k worth of bitcoins.


Taking over?

Where is this coming from?

Plenty of the arguments against crypto lately are based off of things that none of us (crypto guys) have said or believe.
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 8:47 am to
I'm a member of several groups on Facebook of crytocurrency traders to get a feel for them. I know what is and isn't said about crypto-currencies.

I've read a lot about how these guys think Jamie Dimon/JPMorgan see crytocurrency as a threat to it's bank.

I've read a lot about the desire for an unimpeded, decentralized market free from the reach of any government or regulatory agency.

I'm not just making shite up here. I'm not clueless. This what people who purport themselves to be "professional" crytotraders believe.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 8:54 am to
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I'm a member of several groups on Facebook of crytocurrency traders to get a feel for them


Lolz.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:00 am to
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I thought you crypto-currency cheerleaders were against government and securities regulation?


to be fair

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The company complaint to Sweden’s Financial Supervisory Authority, stating Dimon violated Article 12 of the European Union’s Market Abuse Regulation (MAR).


don't know how many crypto-bugs on here are living within EU regulatory schemes
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:05 am to
Probably not any, but you don't think that that regulatory body making a ruling wouldn't cause other agencies to perk up?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422464 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:13 am to
i don't think the EU's insane regulations have much of an effect on US regulations

they also LOVE targeting American companies for being better than what the EU can produce. Google just got hit but they've been doing it since the 00s with Windows
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39581 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:09 am to
What is kind of interesting to me is the fact that Chase already has its own "currency" based on the faith and credit of the company.

So crypto isn't really that far of a stretch from what normal folks take for granted every day, it just has some other things going on with it that make it difficult for folks to understand. Which is a barrier even Chase's currency deals with but not to the same extent.

And yes, I realize the technology behind the currencies is completely different. I'm just talking about the psychology of it.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:27 am to
I feel bad for all the dipshits that didn't sell their bitcoin in August.

It is only going to get worse as governments crack down on cryptos
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:59 am to
It's certainly not the get rich quick scheme where they think they're onto something no one else is. They'll say that's not it, but that's exactly it.
Posted by JLivermore
Wendover
Member since Dec 2015
1419 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:29 am to
Laugh if you want. Many of those groups are GOLD when it comes to psychological and change of order flow indicators.

A source like that can be very profitable if you know what to do with it.

This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 11:33 am
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90510 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:38 am to
You kind of made my point for me.

Elite is using these people as his source of information and you are saying they are complete imbeciles
Posted by JLivermore
Wendover
Member since Dec 2015
1419 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:41 am to
I think we interpreted what he was saying about the groups differently.

I thought he was fading the imbeciles? If so yes, that can be very profitable.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 11:43 am
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90510 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:53 am to
Hmm. I took it as he reads these FB groups and kind of leaves it at that.

I laughed at it because he is taking stuff off of facebook groups and applying it to the posters in the crypto thread. We have a good amount of people in the thread and not one person has posted anything like he is saying, but because some lunatics on a facebook group said it, it must apply to us.

But yea I imagine some people do capitalize off those people
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:12 pm to
I made a frick ton of money off cryptos last year and first two quarters of this year.


Glad I sold everything before the Chinese news
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 12:13 pm
Posted by LSUregit
Member since Dec 2013
1620 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:27 pm to
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