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Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:50 am
Posted by The Baker
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Posted by tigamike
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:53 am to
What does being an established runner have to do with it. You can't launch yourself and lead with the crown of the helmet. Pretty simple
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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:53 am to
I thought they were fishing. The problem is he led with the head.

Tackling a moving RB is difficult enough without silly targeting rules.
Posted by The Baker
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Posted by rrboy
USA
Member since Jan 2005
5318 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:56 am to
I was at the game and called it right after it happened. The guy next to me said, "what are you talking about?" They huddled and tossed him. You simply cannot lead with crown of the helmet and hit the other players helmet.
This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 11:57 am
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13494 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:56 am to
Your confusing NFL and NCAA rules.
Posted by cbiscuit
Member since Dec 2013
873 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:57 am to
Defenseless does not matter when leading with the crown of the helmet. I thought it was a good job of executing the rules. I did not notice the illegal hit in real time but in slow mo, the defender put the top of his head in DG's jaw. Looked scary and the proper call per the rules.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12863 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:59 am to
force-able contact to head or neck area with crown of helmet is always targeting.

Incidental contact with crown- no

force-able contact to head or neck area without crown (for a protected player)- no

force-able contact to head or neck area by any means to an unprotected player- yes
This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 12:00 pm
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17770 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:59 am to
he used his head/helmet as a weapon.

If he hits Guice with his facemask instead of the crown of his helmet its not a penalty
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12294 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:08 pm to
He used the crown of his head.. its that simple and the rule is clear.. the reality is that the rule is in place to protect the offender as much as the runner.. nothing would have occurred had he not dipped his head
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Posted by Douboy
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

The problem is he led with the head.


This
Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:14 pm to
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Posted by sml71
Run if you hear banjos.
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:16 pm to
Everyone is all "let's hyper-examine a rule" and I'm more like "that really had to hurt considering that Guice was semi-questionable going into the game due to recovery from oral surgery." I couldn't help but notice that he was basically done after that series.
Posted by stuckintexas
austin
Member since Sep 2009
2067 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:28 pm to
Also, it can now be a booth-initiated penalty. It no longer has to be flagged on the field then reviewed by the booth.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
7318 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:28 pm to
What was worse was Gilmore getting flagged for roughing the passer. Ridiculous
Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:30 pm to
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Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:31 pm to
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Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42519 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

Looked scary and the proper call per the rules.

Yes - any followup on Guice today??

How much did he play after that hit?
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24833 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:33 pm to
He lowered his head and hit with the crown of the helmet to the head. Defenseless or not, that's an automatic ejection.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:34 pm to
Spearing has been illegal as long as i can remember. He launched the crown of his helmet at Guice.
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