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re: Would a 2 year penalty for transferring ever be a reality?

Posted on 8/23/16 at 5:10 am to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 5:10 am to
Chad Kelly would have benefitted greatly from staying at Clemson.
Posted by TigahTeeth
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
5171 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 5:22 am to
Quite honestly I don't feel they should be punished at all. Sure they committed to a certain program, but these kids have given their all since peewee leagues. If they're getting buried on the depth chart they should be allowed to go somewhere where they can get on the field and pursue their dreams of playing in the league. Let's remember the coaches committed to the kids at one point also. They don't get punished. If someone more talented comes in then naturally the more talented they are the more they play. It's about winning. That's understandable. But don't punish a kid just because he wants to see the field.
Posted by ATL-TIGER-732
ATL
Member since Jun 2013
2291 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 6:56 am to
If a player is listed as fourth on the depth chart, as Brown was and is therefore unlikely to see playing time this year, why not let him transfer and free up a scholarship?

They could use that scholarship to get a quarterback or to keep an experienced punter (Trent Domingue).

Punishing a player for transferring is not my concern. This is:
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Brown is the eighth LSU player to transfer this offseason.


If I remember correctly, after the 2011 Natty fiasco, LSU had many players either transfer or declare early for the NFL.

When almost one-tenth of the team transfers, I am concerned.

Are the 8 transfers a sign of a problem or are we so talent laden this year that the transfers want playing time somewhere else?
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21405 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 7:15 am to
only if there was a 2 year penalty for the college if the college took away his scholarship....have the college still pay if he was cut.

its gotta go both ways.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 7:17 am to
You only get to college football once. If they dont love where they are go where you will. Forcing a player to stay when they dont want to wont end up well for either party.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6371 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 7:21 am to
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Are the 8 transfers a sign of a problem


In any given year you can expect to lose about 20 players to the draft, gradutation, etc. I don't think LSU is over that number this year.

The math is pretty straightforward, if you sign 25 a year, 15 have to get gone. Young guys want to play, I can't fault them for that. And usually you would think they'd be better served by sticking around, but not everyone is going to feel that way.

Given that the "commitment" doesn't go both ways, no, I don't think a two year transfer penalty will ever happen.
Posted by SmoothOperator96
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Member since Jan 2016
4041 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 7:24 am to
So if a kid goes to LSU as a freshman... Decides it's not a good fit for him. So he goes to Tulane or LA Tech or whatever. He can't play until he's a senior. That's asinine
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10666 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 8:38 am to
There should be no penalty for transferring as long as coaches can leave jobs without any penalty. When Nick came to LSU from MSU he didn't have to wait. But the players he recruited at MSU would have had to sit for year.

Scholarships are renewable from year to year at the coach's discretion. So why not give the players the same freedom.

If it is about school first then give athletes the same freedom to transfer schools as regular students. If you transferred from LSU to TAMU as a student you are allowed to go right away and there is no penalty for financial aid if you qualify.
Posted by Lefthash
Member since Dec 2010
107 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 9:23 am to
No, the current system is already disproportionately tilted to favor the University and you want to make it worse? Schools only make a 1 year commitment, but they expect athletes to do more?

I agree with what was said previously that athletes should be able to leave during a head coaching change. I also think there should be no penalty for transferring if they have never played. Schools should not be able to restrict where someone can transfer to. These young men are supposed to be students first and athletes second - no other student is subjected to this.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
59017 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 9:30 am to
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These young men are supposed to be students first and athletes second


Which is why they say to pick a school, not a coach. The rule is perfect as is. Two years of sitting is way to penal, but if there were no penalty at all, kids would be transferring willy nilly all over the place. It would be a logistical nightmare, if not impossibility.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 9:33 am to
the OP is probably the type of person who thinks someone should stay in a miserable marriage, just because they took a vow at a ceremony years prior.

Life is short, don't waste it in a bad situation. If someone is unhappy, whether it's a football player, student, employee, spouse, etc., they should be able to make a change that works better for them.
This post was edited on 8/23/16 at 9:33 am
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83556 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 9:39 am to
quote:

maybe I'm just old fashioned.


no, you're not old fashioned, you just lack logic and reason
Posted by Keeble9145
Member since Sep 2015
951 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 9:43 am to
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Why should the student be forced to honor the "commitment"? Players can lose their scholarship for no reason other than somebody else is better. Coaches can transfer at will with no repercussions. Players are student athletes. They should be able to transfer just like a regular student with no other restrictions.


No they shouldn't because that would open the biggest can of worms ever. After Every season it would basically become a Free agent period coaches would barely even have to recruit high schools anymore because they would just scoop up the studs from the smaller schools that fell through the cracks. They need to keep it like it is and allow players to transfer with no restrictions on special occasions.
Posted by NoNameTiger
Mandeville, LA
Member since Nov 2015
2054 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 9:49 am to
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No they shouldn't because that would open the biggest can of worms ever. After Every season it would basically become a Free agent period .


This is BS, unproven hypothetical.

There would very likely be no chaos. Most players, especially ones that really matter would stay at their current school where they are already key contributors.

If the 3rd string right guard or second team gunner on the kickoff team wants to transfer let them.

The players commitment should be as long as their scholarship. 1 year at a time.

Now if the schools would guarantee a scholly for 4 years, I could see a penalty for transferring.
This post was edited on 8/23/16 at 9:51 am
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 9:50 am to
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Scholarships are renewable from year to year at the coach's discretion. So why not give the players the same freedom.


The player does have the same freedom. They have the right to not accept the scholarship renewal. They have to either go down a level or sit out a year. The rule as is makes sense it keeps other school coaches from actively recruiting kids at other schools. This probably already happens but if their were no penalties then it would be worse and every year would be like free agency in the NFL except every player is up for grabs.

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If you transferred from LSU to TAMU as a student you are allowed to go right away and there is no penalty for financial aid if you qualify.


They still get the financial aid from the new school they just aren't eligible play. If it is a guy that has a redshirt year to burn then there is really no penalty at all. They would still be allowed their 4 years to play.

Posted by prepsportsallday
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
3514 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 9:51 am to
This will set a record for down votes lol
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