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With Will Muschamp likely landing at Auburn and the emergence of the MS schools
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:49 am
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:49 am
What does everyone think about the future of our program. You add a good defense to Auburn. Arkansas seems to beat us every other year (seems like it anyway). Ole Miss will need a QB but has talent and a good coach. Miss St on the rise but losing a ton next year. Bama being bama. I just feel like its only going to get more difficult in the west each. I wish we could all the predict the future if Miles left but my personal opinion is we're in for mediocrity at best if he stays for the rest of his tenure. His lack of development at the QB position and I imaginative play calling will hold us back. We always say wait until next year but our offense is shite every year. Even with Mettenberger it wasn't like we utilized all of our talent. I want to be positive but when it's hard to even watch LSU play anymore I'm not hopeful.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:51 am to jwill37
quote:Every year?
but our offense is shite every year.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:52 am to jwill37
MSU will sink quickly, they will suck next year.
ps - You didn't mention Arkansas. I actually think they'll be a bigger threat over the next few years than either MS school will be.
ps - You didn't mention Arkansas. I actually think they'll be a bigger threat over the next few years than either MS school will be.
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 7:53 am
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:55 am to That LSU Guy
We finished 6th or 7th in the SEC with Mett and JL/OB. Every other year for the last 6 has been pretty bad man. Not trying to be negative it's just fact. I'm just discouraged with what we have as a coach. We get great talent and it just doesn't materialize on the field.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:55 am to jwill37
The MS schools were especially good because they had a lot of experienced talent. One of our youngest teams beat one of Ole Miss's best teams, and State will drop off a lot next year. Assuming we get some of our guys to stay, I'm not worried about them at least next year.
Now, Auburn may be a thorn in our side for a while if we can't keep up their pace. Scoring 10 will not win that one, and don't expect Miles to have a Gary Patterson revelation like he had at TCU with their new scoring machine, either. He'll either learn the hard way with 3-5 losses a year or should get canned if his #2 recruited talent underperforms these next few years.
ps - We had a great offense last year. The O was the reason we stayed in many games and could have won the Georgia one.
Now, Auburn may be a thorn in our side for a while if we can't keep up their pace. Scoring 10 will not win that one, and don't expect Miles to have a Gary Patterson revelation like he had at TCU with their new scoring machine, either. He'll either learn the hard way with 3-5 losses a year or should get canned if his #2 recruited talent underperforms these next few years.
ps - We had a great offense last year. The O was the reason we stayed in many games and could have won the Georgia one.
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 8:47 am
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:55 am to jwill37
quote:Really?
Even with Mettenberger it wasn't like we utilized all of our talent.
3K passing, 2 - 1k wrs, 1 rb 1400 rushing... SEC record...
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:56 am to The Mick
Yea I mentioned Arkansas.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:58 am to jwill37
Pay attention, a high scoring offense will be the death of Will Muschamps image as an elite DC.
Look at Saban and Co, they have joined the arms race. When they score a bunch, the defense suffers. That is just the way it is when you put your D on the field too much, leading to poor performances.
That is the rub.
AU was not missing proven coordinators, it is just hard to play dominant D on teams like that.
Look at Saban and Co, they have joined the arms race. When they score a bunch, the defense suffers. That is just the way it is when you put your D on the field too much, leading to poor performances.
That is the rub.
AU was not missing proven coordinators, it is just hard to play dominant D on teams like that.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:59 am to That LSU Guy
I'm more focusing on the play calling and not using TE's etc. you have to admit that Mett forced a lot of throws in really tigtt windows. It wasn't like the play was so great that Jarvis or Odell were wide open. Think about how many deep catches cooper has made the last 2 years where no one was even near him.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:00 am to tigerfoot
I guess but you don't think they will at least improve under Muschamp? I think they likely will. And may get better players on D because he's there.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:02 am to jwill37
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Arkansas seems to beat us every other year (seems like it anyway).
Your perception is not reality
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Ole Miss will need a QB but has talent and a good coach.
Ole miss has peaked
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Miss St on the rise but losing a ton next year.
Losing talent(that is all that needs to be said about MsSt.) grind on [off]
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Bama being bama.
Water is wet
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I just feel like its only going to get more difficult in the west each. I wish we could all the predict the future if Miles left but my personal opinion is we're in for mediocrity at best if he stays for the rest of his tenure.
Miles knows that this year was going to be a rough year and the team will be in a better place next season as far as experience goes.
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His lack of development at the QB position and I imaginative play calling will hold us back.
The qb position is the major question mark of next season, however I think it is going to be a joint effort from the staff and qb's to improve. I firmly believe Harris is the guy. For whatever reason Miles and Co. did not start him I hope that is resolved going into next season. Not to bash Jennings but passing is not his forte. Harris is the arm of this team and he needs to be ready come next season or we are doomed. There is hope (from the aTm game) for the play calling to improvement.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:05 am to jwill37
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future if Miles left but my personal opinion is we're in for mediocrity at best if he stays for the rest of his tenure
I can't predict the future. But I can predict, with absolute certainty, that Miles will stay at LSU for the rest of his tenure.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:06 am to jwill37
Landmass is not emerging... They are a product of a couple good players and some key seniors. This year, like all years landmass slips into relevance, is an abnormality... Not something that will continue.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:08 am to jwill37
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my personal opinion is we're in for mediocrity at best if he stays for the rest of his tenure.
at best? no
you can say most of the time or on average, but Miles will again have a dominant defense and a good enough offense to have an elite team again, probably pretty soon
now can he sustain elite teams? evidence says no, but not many teams/coaches can
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:09 am to LSU_Saints_Hornets
LSU vs ARK
2008 lost
2009 won in OT
2010 lost
2011 won
2012 won
2013 won
2014 lost
So we're 4-3 against ARK the last 7 games played. And two of those so s were extremely close.
2008 lost
2009 won in OT
2010 lost
2011 won
2012 won
2013 won
2014 lost
So we're 4-3 against ARK the last 7 games played. And two of those so s were extremely close.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:11 am to Wayne Campbell
The rest of his contract a hole. I meant his scheduled tenure. Very clever though.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:13 am to jwill37
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We finished 6th or 7th in the SEC with Mett and JL/OB
Lsu was 12th in the country in yards per play and 9th in points per play.we dont run a HU so our totals are always low.yards per play and points per play are a far better way to determine an offenses success.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:16 am to jwill37
2007 LSU 48 Arkansas 50
2008 LSU 30 Arkansas 31
2009 LSU 33 Arkansas 30
2010 LSU 23 Arkansas 31
2011 LSU 41 Arkansas 17
2012 LSU 20 Arkansas 13
2013 LSU 31 Arkansas 27
2014 LSU 0 Arkansas 17
I think someone forgot the fact that we lost in 2007 also. So it's 4-4 the last 8. Not too impressive!
2008 LSU 30 Arkansas 31
2009 LSU 33 Arkansas 30
2010 LSU 23 Arkansas 31
2011 LSU 41 Arkansas 17
2012 LSU 20 Arkansas 13
2013 LSU 31 Arkansas 27
2014 LSU 0 Arkansas 17
I think someone forgot the fact that we lost in 2007 also. So it's 4-4 the last 8. Not too impressive!
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