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With Miles we underachieved, with Jones we just suck

Posted on 1/21/17 at 3:54 pm
Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
9026 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 3:54 pm
As much as Miles got bashed about (some very deserved), we never had a year that we just sucked so bad we would finish at the bottom of the league and go 0-8 of 1-7. The 2014 team was the worst I remember in recent time, and they still managed to beat Ole Miss, Florida, Wisconsin, and A&M. Not every game was lost before it started. I don't see another win on this basketball team's schedule, and Jones is reaching a low this school cannot and should not accept. He should be out and out very soon after a dumpster fire season, and he should have been gone after last year. I saw this coming from a mile away, and a competent AD would've seen it too. It's embarrassing.
Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
9026 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 3:56 pm to
I'll never forget the NCAA tourney collapse to NC state. That's as far as he'll ever take us
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16372 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 3:58 pm to
This thread ought to keep Ricky occupied for the evening.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
49082 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 4:00 pm to
I like when you start a thread and you're also the first one to reply to it...
This post was edited on 1/21/17 at 4:01 pm
Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
9026 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 4:03 pm to
Meant to add that in with my original post but didnt want to edit wasn't my original plan
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16372 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 4:04 pm to
A more serious reply . . .

That JJ hasn't already been fired tells me Joe has thrown the season away. When Les was fired, I take it that part of the reason why at that time (and not at the end of the season) was an attempt to salvage the season.

Apparently, Joe has no such hopes that this season can be salvaged.
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
6985 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 4:05 pm to
Huge difference - Miles had the talent, JJ doesn't!
Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
2656 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 4:18 pm to


[a competent AD would've seen it too. It's embarrassing.]


The key is "a competent AD". Explains everything.

Posted by shiftworker
LP
Member since Dec 2011
5099 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 4:46 pm to
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NCAA tourney collapse to NC state.



And that's when I was done with JJ. Everything that has happened since that game has confirmed what I thought about him as a coach.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46620 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 5:19 pm to
Please enlighten us how the best tenure ever at a top 10-15 alltime program is underachieving. If miles underachieved then so has every single coach in lsu.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46620 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 5:20 pm to
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This thread ought to keep Ricky occupied for the evening.


Its a full-time job trying to educate you football ignorant posters.
The best coach of our generation with the best talent in cfb loses every year but lesser coaches losing 2 or 3 is underachieving.
This post was edited on 1/21/17 at 5:21 pm
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14474 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 5:27 pm to
quote:

Huge difference - Miles had the talent, JJ doesn't!


It's all relative. JJ don't have great talent but he does have a top 15 national recruit who could have played pretty much anywhere, a top 45 national recruit in Sampson and two other top 100 recruits and a couple of JUCO transfers that could have played for several other Power 5 conference teams.

That ain't gonna get you in the Top 25 with most coaches granted, but I'm willing to bet that gets you better than what we are getting with most. Namely consistent effort and accountability.

That's the bottom line for me.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34650 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 5:33 pm to
To be fair,Until this year we never have had a terrible year under Jones and we're trending up
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34650 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 5:34 pm to
quote:

Please enlighten us how the best tenure ever at a top 10-15 alltime program is underachieving. If miles underachieved then so has every single coach in lsu.
with the talent in place he underachieved. If you can't see that then you are blind
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14474 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

To be fair,Until this year we never have had a terrible year under Jones and we're trending up


I'd disagree with that. Yes, we upgraded talent each year until this one but IMHO results vs. relative talent and the subtle erosion of accountability tells me we were not in the big picture. And last year from the year before was by no means an upward trend.
Posted by TeamLSU
Member since Feb 2009
3072 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 5:49 pm to
Pelican, I totally disagree with you. LAST year was a terrible year also, with the No. 1 overall pick in the draft, and you didn't even sniff a postseason and you follow up last season with total implosion this season equals "it's time to move on".
Posted by LSUFanMizeWay
Picayune MS
Member since Sep 2014
5664 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 6:55 pm to
He needs to resign
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 7:05 pm to
Miles was no Saban who has never had a 5 loss season
Posted by mjax57
Vinings, GA
Member since Mar 2012
3124 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 7:12 pm to
Y'all just can't get over Miles. It's just like an ex, let them go..
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 7:35 pm to
Does this mean all SEC football teams are underachieving with their head coaches?
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