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re: with Fraley most likely leaving, who will wear number 8

Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:32 am to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:32 am to
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especially considering it's been passed down like once and isn't a real tradition.
Mahtook to Katz to Bregman (two seasons) to Fraley.
Posted by GoldenBoy
Winning!
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:34 am to
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Sidebar: Who is wearing #25 on the basketball team next year?


Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
3390 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 12:21 pm to
K-Rob without a doubt
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 12:34 pm to
Good scoop Russian, you earned your keep this week.

I tend to think you are right btw, baseball is mental enough without this kind of extra pressure.

Keep it up
Posted by gumbodawg
Baton rouge
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 12:38 pm to
It feels about as genuine as the Boot trophy in football. If I'm Kramer, I politely decline.
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
52594 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 12:46 pm to
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Hopefully, no one. The number 8 "tradition" needs to die. All it is doing now is creating tension on the team and putting undue pressure on the player wearing it.


I agree with you completely.

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Make Chris Guillot wear it.....


Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278389 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 12:51 pm to
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ETA: Fraley had the second most at bats and second highest number of hits on the team. Yet he only had the 6th highest number of rbi's. I wonder if, when he came to bat with runners in scoring position, did he think to himself, "I've got to drive in these runs to prove I deserve wearing #8."??? We'll never know but he became Mr. Un-clutch in driving in runs for the season. He was much better in 2015 at driving in runs. Last season he drove in only one less rbi on 18 fewer hits and 42 fewer at bats.



do you know what his average was w RISP each year?
Posted by alumni95
Member since Jun 2004
7587 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 12:53 pm to
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Fraley had the second most at bats and second highest number of hits on the team. Yet he only had the 6th highest number of rbi's.


Of course he did... He was the 2-hole hitter and ALL these stats make sense. The 3,4,5 hitters SHOULD be your RBI leaders.

WOW...
Posted by alumni95
Member since Jun 2004
7587 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 12:53 pm to
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Posted by RGJ18
Collierville, TN
Member since Feb 2010
8679 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 12:57 pm to
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Make Chris Guillot wear it.



Speaking of Guillot, anyone see him take his shirt off at the game Sunday night in the 8th inning and started waving it around? Left his undershirt on, but I was cracking up watching that.
Posted by Merlin08
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 1:29 pm to
I never knew this was even a thing
Posted by ColonelTiger88
Nicholls State Fan
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 1:53 pm to
Easy, Nolan Cain. Will give us a rough estimate of how many runners he will send home to get thrown out.
Posted by 81Tiger
LSU Alumnus
Member since Sep 2009
6628 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 1:54 pm to
The "tradition" of wearing number 8 was started by the players and continued by the players the last 5-6 years. If they determine they want to keep it going or end it, the decision is theirs to make and not ours as fans.


It does not matter to me at all. I consider it to be like naming a captain - a player whose teammates look up to as a leader.

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did he think to himself, "I've got to drive in these runs to prove I deserve wearing #8."??? We'll never know


Now that the season is over, you can ask him again what he thought about during his at bats.

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he became Mr. Un-clutch in driving in runs for the season. He was much better in 2015 at driving in runs.


Hitting behind Stevenson, Laird, Scivicque, and Chinea in 2015 vs. hitting behind Duplantis, Freeman, and Papierski in 2016 was a much bigger factor in his RBI production than your conspiracy theory about his mental anguish for wearing his jersey number.


Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 2:14 pm to
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The "tradition" of wearing number 8 was started by the players
Yes, it was.
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and continued by the players
No, it's not. Not now. The coaches decided who got to wear the number 8 this past season. I don't know if Katz "willed" his number to Bregman personally when he left or if the coaches made that decision.

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Now that the season is over, you can ask him again what he thought about during his at bats.

It's unlikely I'll ever speak to him again.

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vs. hitting behind Duplantis, Freeman, and Papierski in 2016 was a much bigger factor in his RBI production
So explain why Duplantis, who hit behind Freeman and Papeirski and in front of Fraley, had more rbi's than Fraley.

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conspiracy theory
You obviously don't know what that term means.....

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It does not matter to me at all.
Your two replies in this thread to me obviously contradict your statement.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36031 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 2:58 pm to
You spoke to a player, shared the conversation with us, and now you are catching some grief because some don't like what he said.

Geez
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 3:26 pm to
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ou spoke to a player, shared the conversation with us, and now you are catching some grief
You may not have noticed but that's common on here. Almost anytime a poster has first hand information about the baseball team, many of the other posters get their feelings hurt and start criticizing that poster. I guess they feel left out or something.

It's not like I had a private audience with the Pope, it's just college baseball players.

I waited to share that conversation I had with Fraley until after the season was over because, 1) I didn't want to give the negatigers ammunition to criticize the kid every time he failed to drive in a run, and, 2) I kept hoping he would break out of his un-clutch slump and start delivering rbi's.

Don't think I didn't recall his words every time he failed to get a hit with runners in scoring position.

And I don't know for sure if his wearing #8 had anything to do with his lack of rbi production. It could just be a coincidence.

But why take that chance with future players? Like you said earlier, there's enough pressure on these kids as it is.
Posted by gumbodawg
Baton rouge
Member since Dec 2003
396 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 3:28 pm to
Kramer and Jake are roommates and friends also. That's another reason I would decline if I was him. It would be different if passed to an underclassman from a departing leader.
Posted by ABEAR29
Port Allen
Member since Jun 2016
44 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 3:39 pm to
the tradition started when Mahtook handed down #8 to Katz. When the player that is wearing it leaves he hands it down to the next guy. had nothing to do with PM picking who wears #8
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