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Posted on 6/10/15 at 1:15 pm to That One
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$100k to do what one loves to do is a gift!
Plus, it's not like many even get close that kind of a starting salary, let alone even at the end of their careers.
Minor league salaries are laughably low. What's left of his 100k bonus might bridge the gap a little for a year or two. Minor league players for the most part are broke.
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 1:17 pm to dnm3305
He won't get close to that next year why can't you people understand that. Unless he was a 1st of second round pick which he wouldn't be he would make much less next year. I swear some of you people have never followed college baseball before.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 1:19 pm to Kajuncook
Let's just suppose he has one of the greatest seasons of all time? Yeah that sounds like solid advice.
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 6/10/15 at 1:23 pm to OGtigerfan73
I've heard he eventually plans to attend vet school... $100-150K would have that covered...
Posted on 6/10/15 at 1:25 pm to BunnieGene
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by BunnieGene
I've heard he eventually plans to attend vet school... $100-150K would have that covered...
Yeah that'd cover about a year of vet school after taxes
Posted on 6/10/15 at 1:46 pm to airbornetiger
lets be realistic on if that 21 year old will invest the majority of that money properly. Iv seen up close and personal how fast someone can spend 9 times that much in just a short 4 year time span. The guy was an idiot but still, it goes quick. I say he should finish his education and have a degree to fall back on once baseball is over.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 1:56 pm to fillmoregandt
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He has some leverage now (turn the offer down to return to school) He has zero leverage next year (turn the offer down and end baseball career). Odd are slim that he has a year that would increase his draft position enough to get a bigger offer. Take 100k now or 80k next year
Again, all of that is based on an assumption that he will be drafted later than the 9th round next year.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 2:01 pm to BayouBengal
People forget when discussing minor league salaries how many actual players they have in the minors.... Not only do you have Triple A, Double A, and Single A, you have independant leagues and what not. The amount of players who wash out is astronomical really, which is why only top picks get the big money. Then look at the draft, even though are not a sure thing.... If you can get your top pick into the MLB for several seasons and have him just perform at an above average rate then it is a success.....
Everyone says, "well he can come back and improve his stock" well this is not the NFL that isn't happening. Teams have seen and scouted him since he was in high school, they are aware of what he can bring to the table at this point. He isn't going to get rapidly better from this point forward in baseball.
As much as I would like to see every LSU kid star in MLB it doesn't happen. For every Todd, Morris, etc there is a Jon Zeringue, Blake Dean, etc... those who dominated in college but just didn't have it for the majors but gave it their best shot. Laird should go, give it a few years and if he isn't making progress, come back and get a cushy job like everyone else.
Everyone says, "well he can come back and improve his stock" well this is not the NFL that isn't happening. Teams have seen and scouted him since he was in high school, they are aware of what he can bring to the table at this point. He isn't going to get rapidly better from this point forward in baseball.
As much as I would like to see every LSU kid star in MLB it doesn't happen. For every Todd, Morris, etc there is a Jon Zeringue, Blake Dean, etc... those who dominated in college but just didn't have it for the majors but gave it their best shot. Laird should go, give it a few years and if he isn't making progress, come back and get a cushy job like everyone else.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 2:08 pm to dnm3305
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Again, all of that is based on an assumption that he will be drafted later than the 9th round next year.
No it isn't. He could be drafted in the exact same spot as he was yesterday and be lucky to get half of the offer he currently has.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 2:09 pm to dnm3305
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Again, all of that is based on an assumption that he will be drafted later than the 9th round next year.
no it's not. if he's drafted in the exact same round, his signing bonus will drop. blake dean was drafted two rounds higher after his junior year and was offered less money. He was drafted in the 10th round in 2009 and offered bteween $150-200k from the Twins (per his father). He was drafted in the 8th round in 2010 and signed for $35k with the Dodgers. It's not that we don't think he's going to get drafted later, it's that the only way to get more money by returning is if you move up into the first 2 rounds. otherwise, you get offered FAR LESS, even if drafted higher. That is why people keep repeating the leverage a junior has over a senior. It matters a whole lot.
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 2:12 pm to EyeoftheEldrick12
You obviously are ignorant of his background. He comes from a pretty well off family. He chances of investing his money well are better than the chances that you invest our salary well. And he can and would finish his degree when he was done with baseball. Anybody saying he could make more money or should stay another year to finish his degree are stupid plain and simple.
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 2:12 pm to lsufball19
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it takes this bullshite "negotiating" power out of the equation and doesn't allow kids to get screwed by wanting to finish school
Problem is, it takes the negotiating power away from the kids not the teams. The kids have the leverage in the Junior year (& HS) because they can always go back to college. If you remove the negotiating power by forcing them to declare, then that gives the teams all of the power because the kid can either play for whatever they offer or go a year without playing and re-enter the draft (assuming it's like the NFL where the team has the rights to the person for a year).
Posted on 6/10/15 at 2:14 pm to lsufball19
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honestly, it might be in their benfit. they wouldn't have to pay 20th round draft picks out of high school close to a 1 million bucks for them to leave. if they had a hard slot amount for every pick in the draft, it would save them a lot of head aches as well.
The current system has simplified it a lot. If they really want a player that is asking for close to a million then they take him at a slot that is in line with that amount. If they don't think the player is worth the price then they may take a flier on him later in case they save enough money to pay him or he lowers his price.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 2:15 pm to MOT
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No it isn't. He could be drafted in the exact same spot as he was yesterday and be lucky to get half of the offer he currently has.
Im obviously ignorant to the way slot money breaks down. If he is drafted at the same exact spot next year, wouldnt the picks around him that are being negotiated on the slot value be leverage in itself?
Posted on 6/10/15 at 2:17 pm to lsufball19
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i honestly think, for baseball, they should make kids declare or not declare for the draft. it takes this bullshite "negotiating" power out of the equation and doesn't allow kids to get screwed by wanting to finish school
How would that add negotiating power to a senior?
Posted on 6/10/15 at 2:17 pm to lsufball19
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He was drafted in the 10th round in 2009 and offered bteween $150-200k from the Twins (per his father). He was drafted in the 8th round in 2010 and signed for $35k with the Dodgers. It's not that we don't think he's going to get drafted later, it's that the only way to get more money by returning is if you move up into the first 2 rounds
The what is the point of slotting money in the first place if a team can just pull a number out of thin air?
Posted on 6/10/15 at 2:18 pm to dnm3305
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Im obviously ignorant to the way slot money breaks down.
I'm in the same boat, but I believe there are essentially 3 different options for each slot; the HS price, the Junior price, and the Senior price. When there is a threat to return to school, the player gets the higher slot because the team will be willing to pay more to keep him and not waste the pick.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 2:19 pm to Weekend Warrior79
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I'm in the same boat, but I believe there are essentially 3 different options for each slot; the HS price, the Junior price, and the Senior price. When there is a threat to return to school, the player gets the higher slot because the team will be willing to pay more to keep him and not waste the pick.
So it's completely biased towards the team and completely takes all of the negotiating power away from the actual player.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 2:21 pm to dnm3305
The older you are the less power you have.... teams have X amount of dollars to spend on all draft picks. The ones they really want they offer above slot money an the ones they don't really care for are usually offered under.
Teams have scouted him since he was a junior in HS they know what he brings to the table by now.
Teams have scouted him since he was a junior in HS they know what he brings to the table by now.
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