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re: Why I don't want JD5 to play in bowl game

Posted on 12/14/23 at 5:47 pm to
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
6755 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 5:47 pm to


He and M N play until the record is broken then……sit down enjoy their last moments with their
Brothers
Posted by Tarpon08
Cut Off, LA
Member since Dec 2014
5128 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:09 pm to
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So last year when Jayden was also the starter and it was still the 2022 season why did he and Nuss alternate drives? That was with him likely coming back by the way making your point even more stupid.


So by your logic Nuss and Collins should alternate drives in this game right?
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
3276 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:19 pm to
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So by your logic Nuss and Collins should alternate drives in this game right?


Not quite. Collins isn't the presumed starter for next year. If it was Nuss' last season I would say Collins or whomever should start the bowl. Collins should get the backup reps though, but that only happens as well if Nuss gets the starting ones.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14889 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:51 pm to
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Bryce Young played in the Sugar Bowl last year it did not hurt Milroe




Milroe was dog food the first half of the season. One could argue that he hits the ground running in '23 if he had that extra month practicing with the ones and getting the start in the bowl.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59128 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:13 pm to
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One could argue that he hits the ground running in '23 if he had that extra month practicing with the ones and getting the start in the bowl.


One could argue that, one would be pretty stupid if one thinks 3 weeks with a few extra reps at the end of last season would have made a difference but one could argue it. I wonder if one realizes even the back ups attend practice and even participate.
Posted by TeygerFan
Member since Dec 2016
411 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:17 pm to
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This is so overrated. He’s been in the program for 2 years. He will get plenty of reps in the spring especially if he’s the starter. Bryce Young played in the Sugar Bowl last year it did not hurt Milroe



Uh, the Milroe that was benched earlier this year? Ok.....
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59128 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:29 pm to
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Didn't miss anything. You saying it provides no benefit is dumb. The coaches would disagree with you.


You miss every thing since you live in zero sum world. We are still talking about next year. The difference between a QB being successful or not is not based on a few extra practices 9-10 months before next season. If the coaches disagreed then they would give the back ups and underclass men all the reps in bowl practice.

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Then why bother playing backup QBs at all? Apparently in game reps mean nothing. Playing week 0 means nothing. Playing in bowls means nothing. Playtime in general means nothing. Hell why even practice.


Here again you completely miss the point. First of all the back ups do practice they do get reps. It is not necessary for them to play in games at the end of blow outs to get “experience” it doesn’t matter. Like a lot of fans you seem to assume if we don’t see it it doesn’t happen. All the players practice they all go to film study and work outs. They coaches know what they are capable of.

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Seems more like that's your MO and I do feel sorry for you. I wasn't active during that fight so that's your thing not mine. Stop assuming things about others or rather implying malicious intent in substitute of discourse.


Are you serious with this
All I said originally was a backup/ probable starter for next year playing in the bowl doesn’t matter and you said
“Just be honest you don't want him to play” and when I said especially if he’s the start next year “Get over it”

You are the one assuming things about others and accusing me of malicious intent.

After seeing a couple of your post it wouldn’t surprise me if you are an alter of Tiger Ree

Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
3276 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:15 pm to
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If the coaches disagreed then they would give the back ups and underclass men all the reps in bowl practice.


The coaches literally split reps between JD and Nuss last year. I bet BK will do the same even if Jayden decides to play.

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They coaches know what they are capable of.


That's not the point. Again you seem to think practicing something for real doesn't make a difference when it does. Both Jayden and Burrow had to go through a year of learning and mistake making before improving year 2.

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You are the one assuming things about others and accusing me of malicious intent.

After seeing a couple of your post it wouldn’t surprise me if you are an alter of Tiger Ree


How is it possible to contradict yourself that directly in literally the next sentence? Your argument that live reps and 3 weeks of practice don't matter is silly. It's not a stretch to think you simply don't want Nuss to see the field and are hoping he won't be the starter next year. I'd check your post history, but I don't really care. If you were just a believer that practices and live reps are pointless (which is absurd) you wouldn't be so aggressively attacking those who feel otherwise.
Posted by Tarpon08
Cut Off, LA
Member since Dec 2014
5128 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:17 pm to
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If it was Nuss' last season I would say Collins or whomever should start the bowl.


Holy frick. So don’t play to win the game. That’s what you want to sell to the guys who don’t have eligibility next year. Thank you for your service but go frick yourselves we need to see what we have next year.

Lets sell that to recruits. We want you to play here. Until you are an NFL prospect. After that we want you to get the frick out so we can try to win a game with players who aren’t as good as you.

Wow.
This post was edited on 12/14/23 at 8:20 pm
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
3276 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:21 pm to
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So don’t play to win the game


Bowl games outside the playoffs and possibly New Years 6 are essentially glorified exhibitions at this point. I completely agree with Pate (though I usually despise the guy) that these should really be moved to the next season as preseason games. Spring games should also be worked into exhibitions against other teams. Far more benefit that way and why do you assume you can't win the game with next year's guys? You still play to win.

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After that we want you to get the frick out so we can try to win a game with players who aren’t as good as you.


Why would you assume that? The disrespect toward players on the roster is thick. I guess the team just goes downward year after year until you're left with guys who don't even know what football is?
This post was edited on 12/14/23 at 8:23 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278602 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:25 pm to
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. Fourth, I think it's best for the program that Nuss get weeks of practice as #1 and get valuable game experience going into next season.


Nuss already determined being able to practice leading up to, and playing, in a bowl game was not important.
Posted by Tarpon08
Cut Off, LA
Member since Dec 2014
5128 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:27 pm to
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Why would you assume that? The disrespect toward players on the roster is thick.


Daniels, Nabers, and Thomas are still on the roster. It is still the 2023 season. If those dudes want to play they play. Period.
Posted by Smoke Test
Member since Dec 2022
87 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:32 pm to
For you football is all about money. How much does it add to my value? For most people, they play football because they love it. It’s fun. It’s a game. Maybe he actually enjoys playing. Your whole life doesn’t have to be about money dude.
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
3276 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:34 pm to
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If those dudes want to play they play. Period.


You do realize we are talking about what's in the best interest of the program and what we personally want right? The coaches aren't gonna say no if they wanna play. This is all opinion and hypothetical.
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
3276 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:36 pm to
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Your whole life doesn’t have to be about money dude.


All of our lives revolve around money and this isn't a hobby for them it's a profession.
Posted by Tarpon08
Cut Off, LA
Member since Dec 2014
5128 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:40 pm to
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You do realize we are talking about what's in the best interest of the program and what we personally want right?


Sure do. But I have a good feeling that what you want is not what’s going to happen.
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
3276 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:43 pm to
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Sure do. But I have a good feeling that what you want is not what’s going to happen.


Never said it would. As of now I think Jayden is likely to not play since he's made no indication he will while others have. Also he's not at the practices. If he does I think BK will play it like last year with the split series' or something beyond just waiting for the game to be out of hand. Regardless of what happens I'll enjoy the game.
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
7971 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:17 pm to
Why I do want JD5 to play in bowl - I’m just a hardcore LSU fan that always wants to watch our best players on the field
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59128 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:40 pm to
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Milroe was dog food the first half of the season. One could argue that he hits the ground running in '23 if he had that extra month practicing with the ones and getting the start in the bowl.


Milroe started against A&M last year, he attempted 53 passes, curious why would starting the Bowl game have set up for success from the start of the 2023 season but starting 2 months earlier did not?
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14889 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 10:01 pm to
Because it's not this experience vs that experience. All experience is cumulative and the more you have, the more likely the light is to come on if it's going to come on.
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