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Why I don't believe in O as HC
Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:52 pm
Everyone keeps saying he gets this much time or it's only one game, but what is O doing? He doesn't interject in the offensive or defensive gameplans. He doesn't know why a player didn't play. What is Ed Orgeron able to do to make this team better on not sides of the ball? He has said himself he lets his coordinators coach. So he essentially has no bearing on this team other than clapping and yelling. Awful idea and awful hire.
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:54 pm to LSUTigKyl
We know O doesn't do anything, Alleva hoped this system of hiring elite coordinators with a puppet as the hc has already shown its colors. It doesn't work
Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:56 pm to LSUTigKyl
Wasn't this board upset that miles was calling all the shots and not letting coordinators do their thing? Now O let's them do everything and you're all upset lol.
This post was edited on 9/17/17 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:57 pm to LSUTigKyl
He doesn't have the track record or a history of past success to be in this job. The decision on both sides was emotional when made and this will set the program back until this administration does something radical.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 4:02 pm to cheesesteak501
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Wasn't this board upset that miles was calling all the shots and not letting coordinators do their thing? Now O let's them do everything and you're all upset lol.
There is a difference between letting your coordinators do their jobs and not even bein aware of any decision making his assistants make during a game
As much as having good coordinators help, it won't full hide the deficiencies from the head coach
This post was edited on 9/17/17 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 9/17/17 at 4:17 pm to LSUTigKyl
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So he essentially has no bearing on this team other than clapping and yelling.
Who does that sound like?
Posted on 9/17/17 at 4:36 pm to LSUTigKyl
A head coach shouldn't get involved with coordinating, it's the responsibility of the coaches he hires. What is the head coaches responsibility is to make certain every coach is doing their job and to keep the team headed in the right direction. Last night that LSU team suffered what Saban would refer to as the, 'Catastrophe Syndrome.' As horrible and egregiously obvious as that first off pass interference was, the head Coach is the one person who must keep players and coaches from falling into the mind set of that syndrome. It's human nature to get be disappointed in something like that, but not discouraged. That entire team, except for certain players, gave up. There's no other way to explain Miss St beating them by 30 points. And that's what the head coach is supposed to do, and that wasn't done. Les Miles started the regression of the LSu football program, Orgeron may bring it all the way back to the 70's, 80's and 90's.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 4:52 pm to cheesesteak501
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Wasn't this board upset that miles was calling all the shots and not letting coordinators do their thing? Now O let's them do everything and you're all upset lol.
You need a head coach that coaches. It's as simple as that. This idea that a HC should just stand there and cheer lead is idiotic. You need one decision maker that takes input from his OC, the DC, the ST coach and makes executive decisions that benefit all of them.
If coordinators could do it themselves they'd be head coaches. But you need a coach that makes the right decisions. It's not an easy job. That's why they get paid a lot.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 4:57 pm to LSUTigKyl
He is good at clapping and looking like a deer in headlights on the sidelines.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 4:59 pm to cheesesteak501
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Wasn't this board upset that miles was calling all the shots and not letting coordinators do their thing?
I would have been OK with Les exerting a lot of control on offense if his philosophy wasn't so outdated and terrible. That's what good coaches do generally. They have a hand in something. Can anyone tell me what Orgeron does?
Posted on 9/17/17 at 5:16 pm to LSUTigKyl
We need somebody on the sideline chewing out players. May be O, may be someone else. Need to light a fire under players with all these penalties.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 5:45 pm to cheesesteak501
The issue wasn't Miles calling the shots
It was how bad he was at calling the shots and his refusal to change.
I have no problem with a coach that's good at running an offense running an offense .
It was how bad he was at calling the shots and his refusal to change.
I have no problem with a coach that's good at running an offense running an offense .
Posted on 9/17/17 at 6:17 pm to SammyTiger
Stop dicking around and hire chip kelly.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 6:28 pm to WhoDatNC
O - HC
Ensminger - OC
Aranda - DC
Best group LSU has seen
Ensminger - OC
Aranda - DC
Best group LSU has seen
Posted on 9/17/17 at 6:29 pm to WhoDatNC
You think the best coaches don't get involved on either side of the ball? Jimbo? Saban? Petersen? Urban? The list goes on. Even if they don't call every play, most qualified HC have a side of the ball that theh made a name off of. Not O. Has never been a successful coordinator.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 7:26 pm to LSUTigKyl
It's so pointless
Posted on 9/17/17 at 7:28 pm to cheesesteak501
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Wasn't this board upset that miles was calling all the shots
Because he was not good at it. O just doesn't even bother. Why can't we have a coach that can actually give game day benefits?
Posted on 9/17/17 at 7:54 pm to LSUTigKyl
He's not qualified for this job. Terrible resume and has never even been a coordinator.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 10:06 pm to LSUTigKyl
Is this the proof we have been waiting for that miles handcuffed his OC's
The fact that O is stressing how much he doesn't do that.
The fact that O is stressing how much he doesn't do that.
This post was edited on 9/17/17 at 10:06 pm
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