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Why does Coach O get so much grief about his first head coaching job?
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:36 am
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:36 am
Was he ever found guilty of illegal stuff while at ole miss? I mean hell Bill Bellicheck (spelled wrong) failed at his first couple of coaching jobs. Coach O did a great job as interem head coach at USC but as he said he didn't fit what they were looking for. I honestly believe he has learned alot throughout his recent coaching jobs and has other coaches respect now. We are one offensive coordinator away from being elite again. We know what he brings to the table recruiting and yes even halftime adjustments mean something now. Two more wins and it's a go for O from me.
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Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:37 am to FLBooGoTigs1
Cause they were laughably bad
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:39 am to FLBooGoTigs1
Because he was terrible at ole piss
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:39 am to FLBooGoTigs1
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I honestly believe he has learned alot
And therein lies the difference of opinion. I want someone who I know has learned from the past: i.e., someone who has a proven track record with a successful & sustained head coaching stent, especially if there was an initial failure.
I don't just want to "believe". I want to see it before I hand over the keys. Three/fourths of a season as an interim doesn't move it out of the "believe" category.
This post was edited on 11/13/16 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:40 am to tigerfoot
Honestly there was not a whole lot of talent there at that time.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:41 am to FLBooGoTigs1
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Two more wins and it's a go for O from me.
Me Too
Coach beat the gumps
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:45 am to rrboy
Ole miss was a bottom feeder at the time.It's like saying now if he was coaching at Vandy Ed O sucked he was vandy's coach
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:46 am to FLBooGoTigs1
Maybe so, but they were worse than having bad players.
He is kinda gimmicky too, good for short bursts. But not years.
Do you really want hour years of themed practices? So much Tell the truth Monday a player can take
He is kinda gimmicky too, good for short bursts. But not years.
Do you really want hour years of themed practices? So much Tell the truth Monday a player can take
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:48 am to Mulat
Please stop, we could've gotten 6 downs and not scored yet
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:52 am to FLBooGoTigs1
What happened at Ole Miss is irrelevant
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:54 am to FLBooGoTigs1
Are you serious? Have you ever researched his record while there?
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:56 am to ipodking
Obviously not to alot of people on this board. People on here don't get it LSU is a brand that kids want. They will get top notch talent these high school kids now want stability and a path to the NFL that is all. Coach will bring that just like les did. One exception Coach O gets it Les didn't
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:57 am to ipodking
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What happened at Ole Miss is irrelevant
Lmao. O's record and performance at his sole permanent head coaching job is "irrelevant" to whether he should be hired as LSU's permanent head coach?
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:57 am to tigerfoot
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So much Tell the truth Monday a player can take
You know this how? The team seems to have responded to Orgeron's different approach.
In truth when he got to Ole Miss he had an empty cupboard and little experience. I don't know if any coach would have been able to do any better with the talent pool Ole Miss had at the time. He was able to start to bring in SEC caliber of talent albeit too little, too late.
He made mistakes (who hasn't in their career)and has acknowledged that. For those of you out there with real jobs, would you like to be judged now on your performance of say a decade ago?
Is he THE guy? I don't know. I do know that he deserves our unqualified support right now. There are two tough but winnable games left.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:57 am to ipodking
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What happened at Ole Miss is irrelevant
It is relevant in the sense it is Experience, which successful people benefit from. I believe he has and I believe he is our BEST choice
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:02 am to FLBooGoTigs1
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Ole miss was a bottom feeder at the time.It's like saying now if he was coaching at Vandy Ed O sucked he was vandy's coach
This . Guy had nothing to work with . his first HC coaching gig and at ole miss. Yeah theres a formula for success. I think Coach o learned alot from Pete carrol at USC. If its not fisher or Herman than give it to O. Give dave A. another million, hire top flight OC with the money your saving by hiring coach O.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:05 am to Mulat
So what if we bring in Herman or some young hot shot does he pull a Saban and take off to the NFL ? With O he has a proven track record yeah it may have been bad at Ole miss but how did he do after that. I just think he brings stability to this program much like les did and kid's want that now. We will get talent we aren't Texas A&M or Florida fighting in state schools.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:05 am to Mulat
I do not think he is a SOCIETY type AND many commentators have friends and it is a push for their friends.
IMHO if CEO wins 2 more games and Alleva does not give him a 3 year contract, Alleva is committing suicide w his career.
a)there is no guarantee that the next coach will either recruit as CEO, or that he will have the rapport he has w players.
b) LSU players deserve to not have 3 coaches in 3 years.
c) Mid season changes have limitations .... perhaps I would ask CEO to look at a strong Offensive OC, but that would be it.
All this talk and speculation is hurting recruiting.
IMHO if CEO wins 2 more games and Alleva does not give him a 3 year contract, Alleva is committing suicide w his career.
a)there is no guarantee that the next coach will either recruit as CEO, or that he will have the rapport he has w players.
b) LSU players deserve to not have 3 coaches in 3 years.
c) Mid season changes have limitations .... perhaps I would ask CEO to look at a strong Offensive OC, but that would be it.
All this talk and speculation is hurting recruiting.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:05 am to FLBooGoTigs1
He recruited well but they.were.horrible.
They got worse. He made really bad decisions during the game.
They got worse. He made really bad decisions during the game.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:08 am to FLObserver
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his . Guy had nothing to work with . his first HC coaching gig and at ole miss.
Sorry, not consistent with the facts. Both O's predecessor (Cutcliffe) and successor (Nutt) at Ole Miss vastly outperformed him. O was the problem.
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