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Why do we have Williams and CEH returning kickoffs?

Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:36 pm
Posted by Section225
Member since Jun 2011
3692 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:36 pm
Neither of the two are great speedsters or have the capability of returning one to the house.

Seems like we should have a WR or DB with speed and agility returning kicks not down hill running backs.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:37 pm to
They put Chark back there but he only caught about 75% of the kickoffs
Posted by LSUfan00
Member since Sep 2016
399 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:38 pm to
Who gives a shite?? 90% of kickoffs are touchbacks anyway.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14721 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:49 pm to
I wish Chark or DJ were returning kicks only for selfish reasons. Part of the reason I try to make every home game is because I want to see the first kick off return in Tiger Stadium in the past 30 years.
Posted by BeastTigers10
Member since Dec 2013
446 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:50 pm to
Probably because of their ball security.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43789 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

Neither of the two are great speedsters or have the capability of returning one to the house.

Seems like we should have a WR or DB with speed and agility returning kicks not down hill running backs.


Speed isn't the only thing that matters when returning kicks. Jackson proved that when he kept running into other LSU players.

You still have to see the lane and be able to read and set up blocks.
Posted by ColeLSU
Member since Jul 2008
5856 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:51 pm to
I keep hearing we're trying to get Jacoby on the field....why not here??? Didnt he do alot of returns in HS???
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65814 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 4:06 pm to
Ikr

Seems silly

Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
19969 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 4:09 pm to
I'll just say that returning kicks and punts are two very different things. Kickoffs require being able to maneuver crowded running lanes, but there is a formation of blockers. I suppose it's more like a running play, so patience is necessary. It's also pretty low probability to take one all the way.

I'm sure that you are right that we have some more explosion at other positions but it is definitely logical having a backup RB out there.

I disagree about CEH, he has the goods to take one all the way.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 4:11 pm
Posted by TupeloTiger
Tupelo,Ms.[via Bastrop,La.]
Member since Jul 2004
4340 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 5:04 pm to
Probably don't want fumbles. Those two will catch it and attempt a runback.
Posted by BDtiger5
Member since Feb 2010
1023 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 5:14 pm to
Need to put Derek Dillon back there
Posted by Ole Misdial
Red Light District
Member since Sep 2017
1123 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 5:16 pm to
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 90% of kickoffs are touchbacks anyway.

Definitely not when we kickoff
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12862 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 5:51 pm to
As someone noted above, I think Donte has proven he doesn't have the vision and anticipation to be that effective.

I'd love to see how Dillon and Stevens would do. It's not natural for some players, if you can find a speedster that it seems natural to, there's your guy.

I love seeing CEH back there. Give him time, I think he is a natural and has the speed. He definitely seems comfortable with it. And yeah, we haven't had a ton of returns so far (6 of 12 KO's received), so not enough yet to see how good he can be at it.

Don't forget, that 2nd back is often strictly there for blocking. Has to be able to block in the open field, get into position fast enough, etc. So speed and footwork are required. He just lines up equal for protection, so there's not an obvious hole to kick towards. Unless it's a perfectly angled kick, the real returner ventures all over. The only way DW is going to return the ball is if it looks like CEH would be in a bad position just to catch it, e.g. on the opposite sideline moving towards the sideline (potentially going out of bounds just to prevent a live ball). On that note, DW only has 1 of the 6 returns (for 21yds). Also on that note, CEH has 5 returns for an avg of 22.4 yds; DW is at least avg with CEH (with too small of a sampling size).
Posted by WITNESS23
Member since Feb 2010
13720 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

Why

quote:

kickoffs


We don't have a special team's coach. Any other questions?
Posted by jvilardo
5024 e. Brooks Town BR, La.
Member since Jan 2012
3280 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 7:53 pm to
DJ is Chark, Chark is DJ
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