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re: Why are people mad about baseball?
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:27 pm to GFunk
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:27 pm to GFunk
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looooooves to show off how smart he is. He loves to blame his players for losses. We've heard the whole, "Kids can either hit, or they can't," bullshite artist line after the Stony Brook meltdown. The problem is that we've seen Stony Brook. We've seen the Houston debacle two years ago. We've seen the ridiculous histrionics he pulled with the pitching staff last year in Game 1 and again in Game 3 in Omaha.
You're not allowed to point out that we have a crap coach and they we could get a better one in the snap of a finger. You know, since we won in 2009 and he was here.
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:30 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
Name all the better coaches lsu could get
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:32 pm to josh336
What does PM do that makes him so good? What separates him?
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:34 pm to ell_13
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No I just looked. I was wrong. I thought I remember it happening last year and us even talking about it, but it doesn't look like it. Must have been supers
Yeah it happens pretty often if the top seeds don't advance. If I'm not mistaken the rules are teams from the same conference can't be placed in a regional, and two #1 regional seeds from the same conference can't be paired for the Super.
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:34 pm to geauxtigers87
Remember that time when losing a midweek game to Tulane would be considered a massive upset and unacceptable?
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:36 pm to MOT
I am ashamed...
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:37 pm to ell_13
Nothing really separates him. But he is obviously a top 15 coach.
he has had us as a top 8 seed the last 4 years. And 6 of the past 8 years. Consistently good teams. He struggles with pitching decisions, player retention, and identifying talent. He is good at finding top arm talent and defensive minded players. He has good character guys usually.
he has had us as a top 8 seed the last 4 years. And 6 of the past 8 years. Consistently good teams. He struggles with pitching decisions, player retention, and identifying talent. He is good at finding top arm talent and defensive minded players. He has good character guys usually.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:37 pm to ell_13
It's understandable with the current skid.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:41 pm to josh336
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Nothing really separates him
quote:Interdasting...
But he is obviously a top 15 coach
quote:No doubt he has had some really good talent. And that talent has won him a lot of games. But what about when the talent matches up? Or he has a team like this year and coaching becomes so much more important during the regular season?
he has had us as a top 8 seed the last 4 years. And 6 of the past 8 years. Consistently good teams
quote:I'll agree with you 2 of 3. Javi did an excellent job finding talent and getting the guys PM wanted. I also think PM's situational awareness when it comes to moving runners is bad.
He struggles with pitching decisions, player retention, and identifying talent
quote:Agree there. Sometimes you go after a guy like Mac thinking it's worth it only to find that you can't handle such a big ego.
He is good at finding top arm talent and defensive minded players. He has good character guys usually.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:41 pm to josh336
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Name all the better coaches lsu could get
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josh336
I love it when folks try to play this game. Let me have a turn. But before we do, let's talk about your question. At least I think it was a question. There was no punctuation at the end of those words whatsoever. I'm guessing...and digressing. Anyway, back to the point.
Before you ask for a solution, can I ask you if you agree that there is a problem? See, the way I've been taught is that first you have to agree to the existence of a problem and define its scope before you go about attempting to find an answer to it.
So before we get too far down the road, are you admitting that there is a problem in and of itself with LSU Baseball that Mainieri is the source of?
I personally happen to think that there is, and he is, respectively. I know it sounds like the typical Ranter to advocate for coaching changes and an off with their head attitude. But I've laid it out here elsewhere in this thread back on the 1st page and a time or two since then I believe. I'd like to think it isn't irrational to be of the opinion that CPM is simply not capable of the consistently high-level of accomplishment that this program has been synonymous with and is rightfully expected to achieve.
So, if we agree that there is a problem. If we agree that Maineiri is the source of the problem via his inconsistency and his issues coaching in tight games and tight situations, let me then ask you this...
If we both agree there is a problem, why must we try to solve it a dozen different ways? Why must we solve it immediately? Why is it that to accept the fact that there is a problem you seem to want an immediate answer before you even admit that there's an issue?
I have just never-for the life of me-understood why people are so quick to ask for answers to problems before they even admit or agree that there is one. The other thing that perplexes me when folks take this tack is when they ask for 20 different answers or then immediately scoff at the idea that there is a problem.
Any good Athletic Department is keeping a list of top-flight replacements for all of the positions in its organization. Whether we're talking Marketing and Promotions, Sports Information, Groundskeeper or yes, coaches. To act like a fan has to be privy to a number of those choices in order to be acknowledged as seeing there's a serious problem with a coach or his product is silly in my opinion.
I guess I've just always been like Jeremy Foley, the AD at Florida. He's not perfect, but he had a quote that I've always loved and always found seemed to resonate with me and how I've dealt with things. He fired Ron Zook and made the statement afterwards that..
What must be done eventually must be done immediately.
Just my $0.02...and no, that doesn't mean I'd fire Paul tomorrow. Just some food for thought about the thought process behind what you responded with and what I think of Paul and how to approach coaching issues in general.
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:43 pm to josh336
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:43 pm to josh336
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Nothing really separates him. But he is obviously a top 15 coach. he has had us as a top 8 seed the last 4 years. And 6 of the past 8 years. Consistently good teams. He struggles with pitching decisions, player retention, and identifying talent. He is good at finding top arm talent and defensive minded players. He has good character guys usually.
You can't struggle with pitching decisions, player retention and identifying talent and be a top 15 coach.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:45 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
He's also run off players at an alarming rate and been a major league a-hole to legacy kids that were also incredibly talented and capable of contributing in a major way on this team.
There are some positives for Paul. There's no doubting or denying that. But the negatives are absolutely there, and there's an extensive list of them.
There are some positives for Paul. There's no doubting or denying that. But the negatives are absolutely there, and there's an extensive list of them.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:46 pm to ell_13
He is a top level coach because he wins consistently.
Im more of the believer in luck when the talent matches up. Its a sport filled with parity. If it werent, some team would be dominating it. Id also be fine with changing coaches if we know we can upgrade. There is no known upgrade. Obviously guys like corbin and o'sullivan are better than him, but you likely arent getting those guys. All other options would be a gamble thats unnecesary. We struggle next year, and ill br singing a different tune
Im more of the believer in luck when the talent matches up. Its a sport filled with parity. If it werent, some team would be dominating it. Id also be fine with changing coaches if we know we can upgrade. There is no known upgrade. Obviously guys like corbin and o'sullivan are better than him, but you likely arent getting those guys. All other options would be a gamble thats unnecesary. We struggle next year, and ill br singing a different tune
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:48 pm to josh336
FTR I didn't like him even when we were good so I'm consistent.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:52 pm to GFunk
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GFunk
Holy shite you think too much.
But to answer this as quickly as possible....just like other coaches he has positives and negatives. I'm of the belief you can't get rid of a pretty successful coach unless you have a better one ready to go.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:52 pm to GFunk
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There are some positives for Paul. There's no doubting or denying that. But the negatives are absolutely there, and there's an extensive list of them.
I feel like I'm listing both but all anyone wants to look at are the negatives
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:53 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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FTR I didn't like him even when we were good so I'm consistent.
I know, you have been as consistent as anyone in your hate.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:54 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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You can't struggle with pitching decisions, player retention and identifying talent and be a top 15 coach.
At a school that attracts top talent you can.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:55 pm to geauxtigers87
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If you followed this team at all you knew this was going to be a tough year.
7-1 to Tulane and 12-11 to Lamar tough? I don't think anybody really thought that. Plus, see basketball outcome - fans are looking for a pick-me-upper.
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