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re: Why are people ignoring Orgeron's record at Ole Miss
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:28 am to tigerworkpart2
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:28 am to tigerworkpart2
Doesn't mean anything. Does anyone talk about belicheks record in Cleveland??
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:29 am to tigerworkpart2
Its a different place, with a different cast under different circumstances. Why are you ignoring his success as an interim coach at USC and LSU? Was that not more impressive than what he did at Ole Miss? Was he not getting better?
That said, Alleva screwed the pooch big time on a true coaches search and none of our problems will ever be solved as long as he remains AD.
That said, Alleva screwed the pooch big time on a true coaches search and none of our problems will ever be solved as long as he remains AD.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:49 am to cas4t
It tells me this team is very young with lots of mistakes, and major depth issues up front due to injuries and suspensions, and then there is key.
What most objective people will want to see is how this team progresses over the year. If they improve significantly over the second half, then I'd say it is a damn good coaching job. If they don't, then I'll share your concern. Most objective people understand there is a lot of reasons why we are struggling right now.
What most objective people will want to see is how this team progresses over the year. If they improve significantly over the second half, then I'd say it is a damn good coaching job. If they don't, then I'll share your concern. Most objective people understand there is a lot of reasons why we are struggling right now.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:56 am to XR Tiger
Laughing my fricking arse off. You aren't even including his wins over top 25 teams at the time last year, yet you are calling Florida and state good. If Lsu had won those games, I guaran frickin tee you that you wouldn't have it listed as a good win. Fkn retards on this site with iq's of below 50
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:01 pm to tigerworkpart2
because it was more than a decade ago.
Same reason why we don't look at Trump's donations to Democrats for 2 decades and say he's a Democrat.
Same reason no one looks at Saban's Michigan State record and goes "he went 25-22-1 from 1995-1998, Saban is an average coach".
If there was a solid line of coaching from Ole Miss to now, it can be part of the narrative but looking at one job over 10 years ago doesn't provide much evidence of anything at this point.
Same reason why we don't look at Trump's donations to Democrats for 2 decades and say he's a Democrat.
Same reason no one looks at Saban's Michigan State record and goes "he went 25-22-1 from 1995-1998, Saban is an average coach".
If there was a solid line of coaching from Ole Miss to now, it can be part of the narrative but looking at one job over 10 years ago doesn't provide much evidence of anything at this point.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 1:25 pm to Dawgfan128
Dawg128 So let me get this your point is I should not consider Florida and State good teams both of which he lost to. My point was he can't beat good teams. Yours is he can't beat bad teams either. But my IQ is below 50. And "if" he would have been 21-3 rather than 3-21 at Ole Miss he may still be employed there.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 1:29 pm to MLCLyons
He was there for 3 years. That's a very good sample size. And 25-22-1 is not 10-25. 16-27 with USC time included. Give me one example where a coach was that bad one place and became a championship coach. Because this isnt about 9-3 with a Sugar Bowl every 4 years. This is about winning championships.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 1:51 pm to Dawgfan128
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Again...it isn't as if he hasn't had the opportunity to prove himself at major universities going 12-4 taking over for two fired coaches midseason. Of course the O haters say that doesn't count, which is comical.
For someone who has played and coached football his entire adult life (as you say you have), I find it astounding that you don't recognize the huge difference between an interim and a permanent head coach at this level.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:40 pm to cas4t
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how is calling your post dumb considered whining?
you're not the brightest crayon in the box
From Dictionary.com on "whining":
"a feeble, peevish complaint."
Your random insult was non-substantive, simply reactionary, and showed your irritation. Therefore, it was feeble and peevish.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:05 pm to XR Tiger
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16-27 with USC time included
so if you're including this then why leave off LSU as well? 3 years is not a good sample size. If it is then as I stated: Saban is an average coach based on his Michigan State record. Belichick is a below average coach based on his 36-44 record at Cleveland.
Am I doing this right?
It may turn out that his Ole Miss record is indicative of his talent but it was long enough ago that the slate is clean for him as far as I'm concerned.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 7:56 pm to MLCLyons
It was enough of a sample size to get him fired. Saban was the coach at Toledo and won, Belichick won the division in his fourth year. So no you aren't doing it right. But keep trying.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 7:57 pm
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