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Which LSU football coach left us the greatest legacy?
Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:28 pm
1 ) Paul Dietzel - proved that a Football National Championship at LSU was achievable.
2) Cholly Mac - created a winning tradition spanning a generation, and showed we could compete at the highest level.
3) Nick Saban - showed that Louisiana had the talent to compete for a national title every year and we should not settle for anything less.
4) Ed Ogeron - gave us the most awarded National Championship in college football history.
Did I leave any contenders out?
2) Cholly Mac - created a winning tradition spanning a generation, and showed we could compete at the highest level.
3) Nick Saban - showed that Louisiana had the talent to compete for a national title every year and we should not settle for anything less.
4) Ed Ogeron - gave us the most awarded National Championship in college football history.
Did I leave any contenders out?
Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:34 pm to tigbit
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greatest legacy
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Ed Orgeron*
That was Burrow's team, not O's. He was just along to FBGM.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:34 pm to tigbit
Saban set what the standard should be.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:35 pm to saint tiger225
We are comparing legacy’s, not coaches.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:38 pm to The Hurricane
I suspect I will get down votes from people who want to say Saban’s,, but can’t bring themselves to actually post it.
This post was edited on 7/18/23 at 11:40 pm
Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:43 pm to tigbit
You really think Orgeron left a great legacy?
Again, that was Burrow's team. O didn't leave shite here except a program on the brink of failure.
Again, that was Burrow's team. O didn't leave shite here except a program on the brink of failure.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:49 pm to tigbit
I might be in the minority, but you can add Dinardo. The end of his career here was less than stellar, but he brought back the magic. He was the first to get Louisiana recruits to stay home. If not for him, maybe Saban doesn't come here, maybe he does, I don't know. I do remember being somewhat apathetic towards LSU football before her got here, which had a little bit to do with my age, and the Era of alot of games not being on TV, but I was tuned in as soon as he got here. I remember his first game here. I was 13 and at a neighbors birthday party, the game was on, and I watched the whole thing. We lost to aTm, but I was hooked from then on. Maybe that's why he's so special to me. That's when my actual Fandom started.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:50 pm to The Hurricane
Saban has got to be the right answer, has he made winning and championships the accepted standard for LSU football.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:50 pm to saint tiger225
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That was Burrow's team, not O's
the depths people will sink to not give Ed any credit whatsoever is astounding
Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:55 pm to tigbit
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Ed Ogeron
This isn't to be taken as a shot to Ed but he hardly left a legacy. He was HC during 2019, yes but the following two years were more of what he was about.
He was along for the ride with Burrow, Ensminger, Brady to a degree, Chase, Jefferson, Clyde, et al doing the work. Yes he got some of those players to come to LSU but as far as leaving a legacy, the subsequent two years after 2019 was more of what people expected. When the HC is on his own radio show and is saying publicly, "If I knew how to fix it, I would." That's not a good look. And then the way he left LSU still doesn't sit well with me. Just take the money and run. A little make shift post game "press conference" and he bolts.
"I won't be coaching the bowl game. Brad Davis will be the interim coach. Let's go Brandy." I mean seriously. Not a good look.
But to answer your question, I'd have to say Saban. And the way he departed LSU still doesn't sit well with me and then to return to college coaching and go to a "rival" in the same division of a team he just left. On Christmas Day.
This post was edited on 7/19/23 at 12:01 am
Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:55 pm to tigbit
Not sure if Charlie Mac should be on the list, as the majority of his seasons didn't live up to expectations. His best year was his first, which The Tigers finished 9-1-1 overall (13-0 Cotton Bowl win over UT) and #1 in at least one poll
Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:56 pm to The Pirate King
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not give Ed any credit whatsoever
I just gave him some. Doesn't mean he left some awesome legacy that we should worship the ground he walks on but then again, I'm not shocked to see you come to his defense once again.
Posted on 7/19/23 at 1:21 am to la_birdman
Saban left LSU with the greatest legacy, which was not to be content with 8-3 (now 9-3) seasons...
I know growing up in the 80's, that was seen as success.
I know he's not listed and some will wail in disagreement, but I would put Miles on here. He left us with a legacy of contending almost every season, to the point of people being grumpy about the manner in which we'd win (because losses were pretty rare). And the actual losses were cause of outrage, instead of accepting that shite happens.
We weren't like that prior to Miles' tenure. Even with Saban, it was realized that we COULD win a title, but when we went 9-3 the following year, people were still happy and positive about things.
I know growing up in the 80's, that was seen as success.
I know he's not listed and some will wail in disagreement, but I would put Miles on here. He left us with a legacy of contending almost every season, to the point of people being grumpy about the manner in which we'd win (because losses were pretty rare). And the actual losses were cause of outrage, instead of accepting that shite happens.
We weren't like that prior to Miles' tenure. Even with Saban, it was realized that we COULD win a title, but when we went 9-3 the following year, people were still happy and positive about things.
Posted on 7/19/23 at 1:26 am to Scoob
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Saban left LSU with the greatest legacy, which was not to be content with 8-3 (now 9-3) seasons...
I know growing up in the 80's, that was seen as success.
I know he's not listed and some will wail in disagreement, but I would put Miles on here. He left us with a legacy of contending almost every season, to the point of people being grumpy about the manner in which we'd win (because losses were pretty rare). And the actual losses were cause of outrage, instead of accepting that shite happens.
We weren't like that prior to Miles' tenure. Even with Saban, it was realized that we COULD win a title, but when we went 9-3 the following year, people were still happy and positive about things.
I don't disagree. Miles maintained it. Won a national championship and played for another.
Posted on 7/19/23 at 2:21 am to la_birdman
Saban woke the sleeping giant.
Posted on 7/19/23 at 3:31 am to tigbit
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We are comparing legacy’s, not coaches.
Whatever legacy O might have had was destroyed by everything he did after the clock hit zero in the title game vs Clemson.
Posted on 7/19/23 at 4:44 am to tigbit
Saban lost to UAB and backdoored into a championship (thanks Hawaii!). O was a one hit wonder. Les had the most talented teams but coaching kept him from wining the one he got lucky to play for. I’m younger, but I think Mac is the answer from talking to the older generation.
Posted on 7/19/23 at 5:22 am to Scoob
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I know he's not listed and some will wail in disagreement, but I would put Miles on here.
The question was about legacy, not how the teams performed on the field while the were HC. Miles' legacy is vacated wins, perving on young women, being the "mad hatter". None of that is great.
Posted on 7/19/23 at 5:25 am to tigbit
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1 ) Paul Dietzel - proved that a Football National Championship at LSU was achievable.
LSU had already proven that a football national championship was possible in 1908 in which they were the first school in the south to win it. All the previous schools were the Ivy League schools, Michigan or Chicago...
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