re: When did Saban separate himself from Miles?

2013. We were right there with them in 2011/2012 then got gutted by the draft and never recovered talent wise. But in terms of coaching, he has never been in the same class as him and never will

When he was born

It's so easy to spot the people that take posting on the internet too seriously.

By the end of the 2007 season. Remember his first season at Bamma when they went 7-6, now officially 2-6, after all of the distractions and wild west team of players? Dismissing some before and during the season! Guess what happened the next season. 12-0!! Yeap all the while LSU is up shitstorm creek if one expected starter becomes unavailable. There always has been night and day between the two coaches. Pete Carroll was the only chance of any late coach to eat Saban's lunch so the previous statement ain't saying much.

When Saban hired Kiffen

They are not and never have been anywhere in the same realm.

After a win, Saban says "we will watch the film, and correct every mistake".

After a tight loss, Miles says "I like this team, we finished second but I like this team the rest of the season."

One strives for continuous improvement...an unquenched thirst to strive towards the unattainable perfection.

One is satisfied, happy having done enough and showed good effort. This is why even simple fixes to implement corrections to repetitive mistakes are not made. How many time outs have we wasted over 11 years because he, regardless of OC, cannot get the plays in timely?

Under Saban, that mistake would be made once and once only.

How many times will the fool allow or order BDP to call sky kick into the boundary on a KO?

Under Saban, you kickoff out of bounds once and you learn not to do it anymore.

Yes the offense has struggled the last few years. But the predominant Les-apologists always refused to see the trees, choosing instead to only focus on the forest.

Mistakes will be made. Decent to good coaches learn from them and teach their teams to correct them. Bad football coaches make the same mistakes over and over and over.

Les Miles is and has for 11 years been a bad football coach. A lot of times, we just out-athletes everyone else in spite of his failures to correct mistakes.