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re: What type of a QB do you think Mett really is now?

Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:40 pm to
Posted by speckhead
Member since Nov 2011
1111 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:40 pm to
This play calling thing is out of control. LSU two best plays where a sweep and a dive play both went for touchdowns because the line actually blocked somebody. Play calling is a over used term of this site, if you win the war in the trenches most of you on here could call the plays and look like guru's LOL
Posted by oleskuledude
Abita Springs, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2012
199 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:40 pm to
I don't see any improvement. Lacks the gray matter, IMO. He's got the arm but very erratic. I'd love to see Rivers play a complete whole game. Just to satisfy my curiosity if anything.
Posted by dandan
Member since Nov 2007
4341 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:43 pm to
I think he is an ok qb. He shows flashes of greatness but is not consistent and I don't think he will be much different next year.

Maybe he could get better if they got a real OC?
Posted by VesperiaLSU
Baton Rouge Tigerland
Member since Sep 2010
1194 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:46 pm to
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I'd love to see Rivers play a complete whole game. Just to satisfy my curiosity if anything.


At LSU, the better QB is always the backup QB, isn't it? but I see what you mean, and I wanted to see Rivers getting some meaningful playing time myself as well.
Posted by Enfuego
Uptown
Member since Mar 2009
9882 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:46 pm to
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This whole thing about being predictable is a myth, you are not going to fool anybody at this level. You must dominate the line of scrimage and the play calling would not be a huge issue. If you dominate the line and you excute your plays LES or whoever is going to be a guru of play calling.


Totally agree with this. What's so special about Bama's offense? They have a dominant line, two stud RBs, and a competent QB. If LSU had that then it would be a different story.
Posted by colton#1tiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
65 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:48 pm to
I have always said since the North Texas game that he was mediocre at best!!!!! Kid plays with cement in his shoes and he's so chicken shite when a lil pressure comes..... Bench him and fire miles, strudawa, and the stupid arse AD who is allowing miles to con him out of 4 million
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259983 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:48 pm to
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Totally agree with this. What's so special about Bama's offense?


Their passing game is infinitely more developed than ours.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259983 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:50 pm to
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Play calling is a over used term of this site, if you win the war in the trenches most of you on here could call the plays and look like guru's LOL


This is part of the problem. Miles depends on perfect execution and beating the opponent man to man. There are teams as talented as LSU, and it will not work.

You have to have some alternatives, LSU doesn't
Posted by VesperiaLSU
Baton Rouge Tigerland
Member since Sep 2010
1194 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:52 pm to
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Totally agree with this. What's so special about Bama's offense? They have a dominant line, two stud RBs, and a competent QB. If LSU had that then it would be a different story.


Okay? but, but, but when you do not have a dominant line, two stud RBs, and a competent QB, shouldn't you have done something differently in terms of play calling to increase your chance of victory? Isn't that why we pay such a high price to hire a coach? If Les Miles can only win games when he have everything that Saban has, then he doesn't deserve to be paid this high. My grandfather could have done the same thing with Saban's roster.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259983 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:52 pm to
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and he's so chicken shite when a lil pressure comes....


Goddamned idiots

He has taken some monumental hits and still delivered the ball. You haven't watched much LSU football this year.

He has poor timing with his WR's which is his biggest problem.
Posted by VesperiaLSU
Baton Rouge Tigerland
Member since Sep 2010
1194 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:57 pm to
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he's so chicken shite when a lil pressure comes.....


That's not true. Didn't you watch the Bama game? Pressure was on his face all day and he didn't cave. That kid might be mediocre, but he is not afraid of pressure.
Posted by Hootie
BR
Member since Aug 2007
2125 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:02 pm to
Where does he need to be? Realistically, somewhere between where he is now and playing like his life depends on it.
Posted by speckhead
Member since Nov 2011
1111 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:34 pm to
Roger i hate to bump heads with you again, but execution is extremly vital in any offense at any level and yes most good offenses plays depends on execution I told u to go to the book store and buy the book Football for Dummies you will learn a lot in a short period of time.
Posted by northeasttiger
New York
Member since Sep 2008
2506 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:46 pm to
I look at it this way. Take the 13 games and ask, how many, despite the shitty scheme, would LSU have been better with the other team's QB.

The only game Incan think of where the answer is no, w Auburn. Even the mediocre out of conference teams had better. Maybe also Mississippi State.

So here you have a supposedly premier team and maybe 11 teams had better QBs. 11 also probably had better schemes also.

If you ask the same question last year, you probably get the same answer.

So I would say all the preseason bravado on this board aside, he's a well below avg. QB in a poor scheme with no foot talent to make something out of nothing. Makes slow decision and overthrows way too many open receivers.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11906 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:50 pm to
The same type of QB I think he was earlier in the season; an immature pussy in the pocket without any presence.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259983 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:52 pm to
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Roger i hate to bump heads with you again, but execution is extremly vital in any offense at any level and yes most good offenses plays depends on execution I told u to go to the book store and buy the book Football for Dummies you will learn a lot in a short period of time.




No one takes you seriously.
Posted by speckhead
Member since Nov 2011
1111 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 3:05 pm to
LOL this is a forum for opinions don't get your feelings hurt because of your lack of knowledge of the game. LOL football is just a game have fun Roger
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259983 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 3:07 pm to
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Where does he need to be? Realistically, somewhere between where he is now and playing like his life depends on it.


He will be improved next year, but I don't think it will matter if the offense isn't retooled. You gotta find a way to get guys open.
Posted by LSUANDY25
Frisco
Member since Dec 2012
3087 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 3:15 pm to
Im disappointed in him. If u can not move and get first downs with your legs in college football you are at a major disadvantage. Double that with no running game and no pass protection, spells trouble for a pocket passer.

I do think our staff should consider making a change at QB and getting a dual threat in there when we cant pass protect. The ability to scramble and convert first downs with your legs is very important.
He seems to me like a guy who just cant make things happen. He is supposed to be this cannon armed accurate guy but teams consistly play man to man and dare him to throw the ball down the field and he doesnt scare any of them.
Posted by speckhead
Member since Nov 2011
1111 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 3:21 pm to
I think a lot of you on here are waiting on Les to break out a run n shot type offense with new wrinkles each week LOL. Les is from the old school protect the ball play good defense an will be in good shape at the end of the game. Is it fun to watch at times not, is it cutting edge formation with mised direction type calls no. His formula has brought himself and LSU to the pinnacle of the college football world for the first time in LSU history. I would love for him to win every big game but thats not going to happen. His 34-17 record verses ranked teams and .802 overall winning percentage is a stat that puts Les as one if not the best coach in the nation bottom line. You want pretty pull for the Oregon Ducks that play flag football each week on the west coast.
This post was edited on 1/1/13 at 3:24 pm
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