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What SEC team's unit would you take over LSU?
Posted on 8/20/15 at 11:38 am
Posted on 8/20/15 at 11:38 am
Seeing all of the team position rankings in ESPN and CFN got me to thinking about which SEC team's units I would consider switching with LSU.
QUARTERBACK
Maybe Miss. State only because of the experience. I think Dak is a great kid, but he doesn't scare me that much. I can't really think of many other schools that have a better situation YET (so many question marks and new QBs). Auburn with JJ maybe (he hasn't done it as a starter yet and couldn't beat out Nick Marshall last year). A&M perhaps (Kyle Allen got good late, and Kyler Murray definitely has the hype). Tennessee (Josh Dobbs had great moments last year). I might switch with Mizzou because the last time we had someone named Matt Mauck (Maty Mauk) at QB, we did pretty good.
RUNNING BACKS
NO ONE. There are a couple of units that might be as good, like UGA and maybe Auburn (NONE of their guys has done anything on the field yet), but I'll take our unit over anyone in the SEC with the additions of Guice, Brossette and Ducre, probably the best RB class of 2015. I also might have put Arky up on our level before they lost J. Williams.
RECEIVERS (WR/TE)
NO ONE. A&M has a really good set, but I believe our unit is every bit as good as theirs. I'll take our guys, especially now that Dupre, Diarse, Quinn and Chark all have last year under their belts. Oh, and throw in the nation's best receiver in last year's class (OK, maybe second behind Calvin Ridley). And I'm expecting the Smith/Washington tandem at TE to become special if we start throwing to them. We are stacked at TE.
OFFENSIVE LINE
NO ONE. Again, there are units that are probably equal, but I just like our situation here, especially our depth. Ethan Pocic may be the best O-lineman in the SEC this year, and, oh yeah, we have Vadal and Hawkins back for their senior seasons. And our greatest O line recruiting class ever is now fully on campus.
DEFENSIVE LINE
Alabama. Their front seven is going to be really good this year, and it starts in the trenches for them. Their depth is unreal.
LINEBACKERS
Georgia or Alabama. This is closer than it might appear, but I don't like our depth here either. If Beckwith had been the one to get hurt instead of Mills, we'd be kind of screwed.
DEFENSIVE BACKS
NO ONE. Even with the Mills injury. Hopefully, he is back for Auburn. Florida is the one unit that probably equals ours.
Going through this exercise made me realize that I think people are way too pessimistic about our offense and way too optimistic about our defense. This season may be more like 2013 than 2012, especially when you consider we have NO new offensive coaches and TWO new defensive coaches.
QUARTERBACK
Maybe Miss. State only because of the experience. I think Dak is a great kid, but he doesn't scare me that much. I can't really think of many other schools that have a better situation YET (so many question marks and new QBs). Auburn with JJ maybe (he hasn't done it as a starter yet and couldn't beat out Nick Marshall last year). A&M perhaps (Kyle Allen got good late, and Kyler Murray definitely has the hype). Tennessee (Josh Dobbs had great moments last year). I might switch with Mizzou because the last time we had someone named Matt Mauck (Maty Mauk) at QB, we did pretty good.
RUNNING BACKS
NO ONE. There are a couple of units that might be as good, like UGA and maybe Auburn (NONE of their guys has done anything on the field yet), but I'll take our unit over anyone in the SEC with the additions of Guice, Brossette and Ducre, probably the best RB class of 2015. I also might have put Arky up on our level before they lost J. Williams.
RECEIVERS (WR/TE)
NO ONE. A&M has a really good set, but I believe our unit is every bit as good as theirs. I'll take our guys, especially now that Dupre, Diarse, Quinn and Chark all have last year under their belts. Oh, and throw in the nation's best receiver in last year's class (OK, maybe second behind Calvin Ridley). And I'm expecting the Smith/Washington tandem at TE to become special if we start throwing to them. We are stacked at TE.
OFFENSIVE LINE
NO ONE. Again, there are units that are probably equal, but I just like our situation here, especially our depth. Ethan Pocic may be the best O-lineman in the SEC this year, and, oh yeah, we have Vadal and Hawkins back for their senior seasons. And our greatest O line recruiting class ever is now fully on campus.
DEFENSIVE LINE
Alabama. Their front seven is going to be really good this year, and it starts in the trenches for them. Their depth is unreal.
LINEBACKERS
Georgia or Alabama. This is closer than it might appear, but I don't like our depth here either. If Beckwith had been the one to get hurt instead of Mills, we'd be kind of screwed.
DEFENSIVE BACKS
NO ONE. Even with the Mills injury. Hopefully, he is back for Auburn. Florida is the one unit that probably equals ours.
Going through this exercise made me realize that I think people are way too pessimistic about our offense and way too optimistic about our defense. This season may be more like 2013 than 2012, especially when you consider we have NO new offensive coaches and TWO new defensive coaches.
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 11:41 am to Tigerpaul1969
By mid season, Harris will be better than Dak.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 11:42 am to Tigerpaul1969
What about Coaching?
Posted on 8/20/15 at 11:43 am to GeauxToBed
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By mid season, Harris will be better than Dak.
Pump the breaks. That may be unreasonable expectations. What has he done to make you believe this?
Posted on 8/20/15 at 11:43 am to Tigerpaul1969
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unit would you take
Posted on 8/20/15 at 11:43 am to Tigerpaul1969
Is this guy for real? He makes us sound like we have the unanimous #1 team in the nation...
Posted on 8/20/15 at 11:45 am to Hold That Tiger 10
Simple, I think he's more talented based on what I have seen of both. I think Dak's one of the most overrated players in the conference.
He'll struggle this year with no O-line and no Josh Robinson.
He'll struggle this year with no O-line and no Josh Robinson.
This post was edited on 8/20/15 at 11:46 am
Posted on 8/20/15 at 11:45 am to Tigerpaul1969
Solid post. Auburn's DL might be interesting too with Carl Lawson coming back.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 11:46 am to ForeverLSU02
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What about Coaching?
That's a good question. I think you need to look at the entire coaching staff overall in order to do this. I would probably switch with Alabama, but I think Lane Kiffin is extremely overrated as an offensive coach, but I would probably still do it to get Saban and Smart. I'll tell you though, I think our position coaches are as good as it gets in the SEC.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 11:47 am to Tigerpaul1969
Just personal preference, but I try to stay away from other people's units! To each his own I guess.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 11:50 am to SoFresh
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Is this guy for real? He makes us sound like we have the unanimous #1 team in the nation...
I'm honestly assessing what I know as an amateur. Instead of just doing this, why don't you let us know which units you would take over LSU's. I might agree with some of your thinking, but I can't know what you are thinking when you make a statement like this. Which RB unit in the SEC is better enough than LSU to the point that you would switch with them? I can see Georgia for sure but it's very close. Which WR/TE unit? I could see Texas A&M, but again I think it's a close call. Which O-line? Which DB unit?
That's why I put more reasoning behind those units that I didn't want to switch. I was actually surprised when I really started thinking about it.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 11:51 am to Bayouboogaloocrew
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Just personal preference, but I try to stay away from other people's units! To each his own I guess.
I think that is something that we all could learn from in this day and age.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 11:53 am to Tigerpaul1969
The reason I like these players is that they chose to play for LSU. I dont wax poetic or fantasize about other players on other SEC teams. GO be a Bulldog fan if you like Dak so much.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 11:54 am to Tigerpaul1969
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What SEC team's unit would you take over LSU?
Posted on 8/20/15 at 11:54 am to c on z
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Solid post. Auburn's DL might be interesting too with Carl Lawson coming back.
Yes, their starting unit will be a bear for sure with Cowart and Lawson. I'm ignorant as to their depth though. One thing I do know is that Alabama's second team D-line would probably start for just about anyone.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 11:57 am to ninthward
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The reason I like these players is that they chose to play for LSU. I dont wax poetic or fantasize about other players on other SEC teams. GO be a Bulldog fan if you like Dak so much.
I didn't really think I was waxing poetic for Dak. I actually think he'll regress this year because he won't have the luxury of having Josh Robinson to run it a ton every game. I just like the fact that he's a third year starter. Brandon Harris has started exactly one game in his career and he will most likely be starting for us. It still makes me nervous.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 12:44 pm to Tigerpaul1969
Kyle Allen
Posted on 8/20/15 at 1:00 pm to Tigerpaul1969
Kiffin was only good because of Amari Cooper.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 1:14 pm to Tigerpaul1969
quote:
I'm honestly assessing what I know as an amateur. Instead of just doing this, why don't you let us know which units you would take over LSU's. I might agree with some of your thinking, but I can't know what you are thinking when you make a statement like this. Which RB unit in the SEC is better enough than LSU to the point that you would switch with them? I can see Georgia for sure but it's very close. Which WR/TE unit? I could see Texas A&M, but again I think it's a close call. Which O-line? Which DB unit?
Texas A&M has arguably the best receiver group in the nation. I'll be honest, I'm not sure what LSU has coming in, but it's no one rated as highly as Christian Kirk, and every preseason publication I've seen has A&M's WR group ranked number one in the league. Reynolds was our most productive receiver last year, and the other three are 5 stars. Dural is really good and might find a starting spot if he was on A&M's roster, but I honestly don't think any of your other receivers would.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 1:47 pm to TeLeFaWx
OK. I'd still keep the Tigers.
The WR coming in is Tyron Johnson, who was the No. 2 WR in Rivals (11 overall) and No. 5 WR in 24/7 (27 overall). I know about Christian Kirk, and of course, know all about RSJ and Speedy and Reynolds. RSJ has yet to live up to his lofty ranking (not to say that he won't), and Speedy did look good at times last year.
I don't really care about the stars. Trey Quinn could have easily gotten his 5th star, given he broke the all-time national HS receiving yardage record held by Dorial Green-Beckham, so we have Dupre and Johnson as 5-stars, Quinn and Diarse as 4-stars, and yet our leading receiver is Dural, a 3-star. Also, DJ Chark was a 3-star and he will get just as much PT as the 4 and 5 stars will. I'm also not even mentioning two 4-star true freshmen that probably won't see the field much this year, Derrick Dillon and Jazz Ferguson.
I also said I could see the argument as to why someone might argue the switch with A&M. I just like our guys enough that I would keep them.
Don't forget that this group includes the tight ends, and we are 4 deep there not including two true freshmen.
The WR coming in is Tyron Johnson, who was the No. 2 WR in Rivals (11 overall) and No. 5 WR in 24/7 (27 overall). I know about Christian Kirk, and of course, know all about RSJ and Speedy and Reynolds. RSJ has yet to live up to his lofty ranking (not to say that he won't), and Speedy did look good at times last year.
I don't really care about the stars. Trey Quinn could have easily gotten his 5th star, given he broke the all-time national HS receiving yardage record held by Dorial Green-Beckham, so we have Dupre and Johnson as 5-stars, Quinn and Diarse as 4-stars, and yet our leading receiver is Dural, a 3-star. Also, DJ Chark was a 3-star and he will get just as much PT as the 4 and 5 stars will. I'm also not even mentioning two 4-star true freshmen that probably won't see the field much this year, Derrick Dillon and Jazz Ferguson.
I also said I could see the argument as to why someone might argue the switch with A&M. I just like our guys enough that I would keep them.
Don't forget that this group includes the tight ends, and we are 4 deep there not including two true freshmen.
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