re: What LSU Has To Do To Make The Tourney - as of Feb 15th

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I think were you're running into trouble is you're thinking that the NCAA would just go down the standings 1-5 and select those teams in order, i.e.

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Aha. I see your point now. I was thinking more along these lines:

1st Deserving SEC Team - In
2nd Deserving SEC Team - In
3rd Deserving SEC Team - In
4th Deserving SEC Team - In
5th Deserving SEC Team - In
6th Deserving SEC Team - Out

We know that UK and UF will get the 1 and 2 spot. I just think LSU will be in if they get to that 5th spot. Lots of variables to consider, but having a top 5 SEC record is one of them.

And I still have to stick with my argument that Bama is the exception to the rule. Your point (and others) about Bama last year is valid.

But that was flat out a mistake on the part of the committee.

And the mistake happened to Bama.

And Bama is located in Birmingham.

And the SEC Conference Headquarters are located in Birmingham.

And politics plays a big part with the Selection Committee.

And all of that is going to help LSU get in...if we win.

ACC people probably are saying the SEC doesn't deserve 5.

If there are upsets in conference tourneys. The ACC 6 and SEC 5 are probably the first 2 cut.

let us have our fun. We won 5 SEC games the last 2 seasons combined. We have 5 SEC wins already this year

No, but you'll see they list basically anybody with any sort of chance. They don't like to be caught off guard in the final five games. There are some teams on there that'll never get in.

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That isn't taking into account who we have already played and who we have left.

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Of course it's taken into account who LSU has played. What do you think they base this on? It's updated weekly. And there are plenty of teams on there with losing conference records. They're on there because their non-conference resumes and RPIs are better than LSU's. Some of you are putting entirely too much stock in conference records (I'd reason it's because it's all LSU has going for it, and its based on a hypothetical winning the next five games at that). It's just one of many factors taken into account. RPI and SOS (especially non-conference) are the two main ones, and other things like conference records, records away from home, quality wins, bad losses, etc also playing part.

I don't think they have a shot unless the games they win are all the ones in the SECt and they get the auto-bid. Hence why I said some of you put far too much stock in conference record. It's just another measuring stick amongst many, and all the other ones are pretty bad to just downright ugly for LSU.

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Of course it's taken into account who LSU has played

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I meant in terms of our conference schedule. It isn't taking into account we have played all of our hard games and the 5 we have left are winnable for us. We were off the radar because we were 3 and 6 in conference a week ago. A 7 game run seemed highly unlikely. If we win out the reg season, I think we will be in. If you disagree that is fine, but that doesn't mean you know more about it then anyone else or that you are right.

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Win 3 of the next 4.

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Stopped reading there.

LSU MUST win out. End of story.

It sounds crazy but LSU has a legitimate chance of finishing 3rd in the SEC if they win out. Vandy has a tough schedule and could end up 9-7. They are good.. but winning on the road has been difficult this season.

Here's Lunardi's bubble from his bracket math today:The bubble (34 teams for 15 spots)
IN (15, in S-Curve order):

34-Connecticut, 35-West Virginia, 36-Alabama, 38-Iowa State, 40-Purdue, 41-BYU, 42-Arizona, 43-Illinois, 44-Texas, 45-Kansas State, 46-Seton Hall, 48-Cincinnati, 49-North Carolina State, 50-Miami (FL), 51-Xavier

Those would be the bubble teams that would make the field.


OUT (19, in S-Curve order)
69-Washington, 70-Minnesota, 71-Northwestern, 72-Wyoming, 73-Colorado State, 74-Central Florida, 75-Oregon, 76-Colorado, 77-Saint Joseph's, 78-Dayton, 79-Stanford, 80-Arkansas, 81-Ole Miss, 82-Missouri State, 83-VCU, 84-Massachusetts, 85-South Florida, 86-New Mexico State, 87-South Dakota State

Again, no mention of LSU. Does mention South Dakota State. If any of yall think that LSU has a chance by winning a few more games against average to bad SEC teams (basically all bad in terms of RPI), then your delusional. LSU's only shot is winning the SEC tournament. They could get in the conversation as a longshot if they win out all the way to the SEC title game and then lose, if they beat Kentucky along the way.

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Again, no mention of LSU.

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No mention of LSU because there shouldn't be any mention of LSU from a national guy with us at 15-10, 5-6. But LSU fans are throwing around the idea of us winning out. If LSU wins out Joe WILL be talking about what we need to do during that week before the SEC tournament.