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What Is Wrong With The BCS?
Posted on 1/4/12 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 1/4/12 at 4:20 pm
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Posted on 1/4/12 at 5:08 pm to jaypee15
Because this isn't some Pop Warner league where everyone gets a trophy to make them feel good about themselves. Can you imagine if after the NFL regular season, we had Olympic ice skating judges deciding who the champion was for that year? "Oh, a low score for Patriots from the NY judge...didn't see that one coming, Bob."
Posted on 1/4/12 at 5:15 pm to InLesWeTrust
Every one who complains about the BCS completely forgets that 2/3 are people voting. Bama was second in both of the people polls.
Those people jsut don't as much airtime as the people bitching.
Those people jsut don't as much airtime as the people bitching.
Posted on 1/4/12 at 5:20 pm to SammyTiger
Bcs is set up so that the 2 best teams play at the end of the season, besides maybe aurburn 04 (I don't think so but maybe) IMHO bcs got it right every year.
Posted on 1/4/12 at 5:41 pm to jmkidder
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Bcs is set up so that the 2 best teams play at the end of the season
I dont GAF what side of the argument you are on....pro vs. anti bcs.
The above statement is false. No where on the BCS official website will you find that language. (2 best teams).
It says the purpose of the BCS is to give weight to the regular season and to reward teams with bowl games because of it. #1 "Ranked vs #2 Ranked" will play the BCSNCG.
I am of the belief the BCS has always been more about who deserved to be in that game....until this year. It became about who can hang or beat LSU. The system was manipulated with ESPN lobbying for bama because it benefits ESPN's pocket book.
Im for a playoff. Let it be decided on the field.
Posted on 1/4/12 at 5:44 pm to jaypee15
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For years I too shared this popular sentiment until I was overcome with a recent revelation. For once in sports, it’s not about the average fan.
To the people in college football that really matter, the players, students, and die-hard fans, the chance to take part in a bowl game is the ultimate reward for a successful season. The teams are given the keys to cities around the country. They are treated to exclusive tours; they dine at the best restaurants, attend parties in their honor, and are given gifts from the bowl sponsor. They have the chance to end their season as champions, and do it on national TV, so that all their friends, family, and all the people who have supported them over the years can watch. Whether the school is a perennial top ten power, or not, the experience for the players is the same, they are treated like royalty.
One of the most beautiful things about the bowl season is that the scheduling allows for the smaller, often uncelebrated schools to receive national spotlight, if only for a night. For once, their game gets the national hype. For once, their highlights are on ESPN, and for once, the national media talks about them. For the players on these smaller teams who may not be destined for pro sports, the bowl season is the opportunity of a lifetime.
If the average fan knew what a bowl game experience was like for a player at a non-traditional power, they'd never want to do anything that could take away from that experience.
They truly do deserve it, and the bowl system without question is such a huge part of what makes college football so special.
And the regular season undeniably means more in college (spare us the rematch means those games don't matter bullshite too).
Anyone who's a fan of both LSU and the Saints like I am can't tell me that a Saints regular season loss hurts as much as an LSU regular season loss. It just can't.
The games literally don't mean as much.
It's simple mathematics.
This post was edited on 1/4/12 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 1/4/12 at 6:54 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Tiger Voodoo
Posted on 1/4/12 at 6:59 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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If the average fan knew what a bowl game experience was like for a player at a non-traditional power
The "average fan" doesn't even understand LSU going to NOLA tonight for the BCSNCG.
Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:01 pm to MoreOrLes
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Im for a playoff. Let it be decided on the field.
I'm for a playoff also, but, if LSU and Bama met this year AFTER being in a playoff, it would be OK?
Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:04 pm to jaypee15
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To the people in college football that really matter, the players, students, and die-hard fans, the chance to take part in a bowl game is the ultimate reward for a successful season.
When did 7 wins become successful?
Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:06 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Anyone who's a fan of both LSU and the Saints like I am can't tell me that a Saints regular season loss hurts as much as an LSU regular season loss. It just can't.
Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:08 pm to MoreOrLes
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. It became about who can hang or beat LSU.
Sure seemed that way. I heard a lot of talk bout bama getting votes cause they have the best chance of beating lsu. How is that a reason to vote them in? Bama had their chance. Ok state should have been next to get a shot.
That said I have a cousin in law that I can't wait to call when we beat bama.
Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:15 pm to denvertiger
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When did 7 wins become successful
LSU in the 90's?
Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:19 pm to denvertiger
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When did 7 wins become successful?
Easy to be all high and mighty when LSU is in the midst of it's most dominant decade in program history.
I can remember when 7 wins and an Independence Bowl bid was outstanding.
Hell, when we were 7-4 and got invited to the Independence Bowl in 1995 I thought LSU should build a statue of Dinardo right then.
The students who bust their arse all offseason and somehow manage to juggle practice and classes every fall for programs outside of the top 10-15 teams deserve to have a showcase game.
That's why I was so thrilled a team like UL and their fans had a chance to experience that this year.
They are all part of this amazing game of college football.
I hope it never changes.
This post was edited on 1/4/12 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:22 pm to SORRENTO TIGER
Tiger Voodoo, I don't doubt that the bowls are a positive experience for those players at mid-major schools. However, I think it has been shown that those schools will not be impacted by a playoff. They simply play in the bowls as they always have. Hell, if you've watched any of the bowls on TV, with the possible exception of the Rose Bowl, nobody was at these games now. Relegating the bowls to NIT status wouldn't seem to do anymore harm to attendance and thus the players experience.
Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:42 pm to jaypee15
There isn't that much wrong with the BCS system. The reason why there's always a controversy over who gets into the title game is that the regular season isn't really testing enough to sort out the top two teams. It might be different if we had an all-play-all regular season of LSU, Bama, Okie State, Oklahoma, Stanford, Oregon, etc. LSU doesn't play Western Kentucky and Bama doesn't play Kent State.
A lot like soccer leagues, in other words. Each year the bottom couple of teams move down and the top two from the next level move up.
And even then you might have a season where there just aren't two clear best teams. Maybe four of them are really just as good as each other.
There really isn't a definitive solution but BCS is not the problem people think it is. It's the regular season.
A lot like soccer leagues, in other words. Each year the bottom couple of teams move down and the top two from the next level move up.
And even then you might have a season where there just aren't two clear best teams. Maybe four of them are really just as good as each other.
There really isn't a definitive solution but BCS is not the problem people think it is. It's the regular season.
Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:46 pm to duboisd
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I don't doubt that the bowls are a positive experience for those players at mid-major schools. However, I think it has been shown that those schools will not be impacted by a playoff. They simply play in the bowls as they always have.
I hear what you're saying, but my biggest concern with that line of thought was dealt with in that article as well:
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how many of those elusive ad dollars from the ESPN hype machine be diverted from promoting the smaller bowls to promoting the upcoming playoffs? And once a plus one or two system is allowed, how long before public outcry demands an expanded playoff field, pushing round one further and further back into the bowl season? Once Pandora’s box is opened, it can never be closed again. Likewise, once the smaller bowls lose their prime time TV slots, the bowl system, as we know it will be lost forever.
Think about the NIT compared to the NCAA tournament. Once you establish a "playoff" system, any team that isn't included truly will be considered irrelevant. I just honestly don't think the bowls would survive, and the number of bowls would eventually be DRASTICALLY cut down, limiting the amount of teams that could give their players that experience.
I love the current system, but if a playoff is inevitable, I could live with a plus one system, and I think the bowls could survive that as well.
But I would HATE anything more than that. Honestly, has their ever been a year when more than 4 teams could legitimately claim they deserved a shot to play for a national title anyway??
Anything more than 4, and it's a money play, plain and simple. And the smaller bowls and the teams that play in them will be cut out of the bowl experience eventually.
Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:47 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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got invited to the Peach Bowl in 1995
We went to Indy Bowl in '95 and played Michigan State. Peach Bowl was in '96 and we played Clemson.
Point taken however.
Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:52 pm to Lafman
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I'm for a playoff also, but, if LSU and Bama met this year AFTER being in a playoff, it would be OK?
Absolutely.
Posted on 1/4/12 at 8:01 pm to FlyingTiger06
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We went to Indy Bowl in '95 and played Michigan State
Stupid error on my part. I was at the game.
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