re: What if Sumlin gave up on Kyle Allen after his first start?

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Hill lost a game 59-0 then got suspended. Jennings has been bad but the situations aren't similar.

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Jennings has played like crap almost the entire season, while Harris has played well in spots, outside of the half against Auburn which he continually gets judged (and subsequently benched) over.

Now the situations are very similar, as Sumlin is choosing Allen over Hill. Allen has gotten more chances and much more game development.

It's really a damn shame how the coaches have stunted Harris' development. To just out remove him from the Auburn game and then give up on him the rest of the season after the promise he showed early on is downright pathetic. We have sold out just hoping our QB doesnt make any mistakes, and nothing more. We have effectively neutered the position.

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Yeah. You really have to wonder how in the frick playing bad on the road vs AU costs you the job when the guy you replaced stunk at least as bad against freaking New Mexico State!!!!

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It honestly looked like Jennings had no interest in the game against NMSU. I dont know how else you turn the ball over THREE TIMES in four possessions all on you, against a team that bad.

The starter was suspended. Your thread sucks and is no way a similar situation at LSU.

This is what I'm saying. Just cuz Harris had one bad start doesn't mean you don't give him a fair shake. A&m did it once they hit 3 losses and I believe it's our time now.

I was fine with everything but if Harris is not the guy here on out its a huge travesty and will cause more of the same next season. Now is the time. Bowl positions are not as important once you are out of a BCS bowl birth.. The future and building towards it now is far more important.

Harris gave us nothing in the auburn game. Absolutely nothing. The stakes are too high to risk putting a kid in against SEC competition if he's not ready. What's better than competing against our defense in practice everyday? He'll be fine in the long run but he does need time right now to improve his awarenes. Every SEC team has good defensive players so it wouldn't be fair or necessary to put Harris in that situation and possibly destroy his confidence. The off-season will be the time when he improves the most.

Hill was suspended however Sumlin was already considering the change before hand. He said immediately after their Alabama loss he was considering qb change.

Then when asked recently after the Auburn game if Hill would overtake Allen once his suspension is up.. Sumlin responded by saying Allen is their guy! I absolutely love that. That's something Miles would never say.

Now is the time for LSU to follow suit and not just give up on an elite young talent just because of one bad start. Give the guy the keys now and build for a future.

I'm so sick of seeing LSU play scared to turn the ball over. I'm tired of the lack of confidence in ability to throw the football around when needed.. I want to see LSU have such a great team that they can overcome a couple of interceptions and strike quickly. Like Winston even throws multiple interceptions in a game.. But it doesn't rattle their team.. They overcome it. Nick Marshall as well.

Harris is an elite prospect who has shown greater promise even in limited time.. But I'm tired of Seeing him in such position to fail.. To feel that he has to play near perfect no turnover ball and on such a short lease.. Let the man do his thing. Give him multiple games now. Not one, not two, give him three with complete trust. Now is the time or else we will be in this same shitty qb position next year. It's f-inch absurd otherwise.

Harris is such a talent that Auburn wanted him bad. Had he gone there he'd be sitting behind Nick Marshall for one season and he'd be starting as early as next season. A sophomore or RS freshman.. And you know their offense would be putting up gaudy numbers behind him.

@ Mattwells,

I would not want Sumlin as many have.. I would still take Les as a HC over almost anyone realistically speaking..

But when it comes to handling quarterbacks, I would trust what Sumlin does there.. Again, it will be very interesting to see what he does once Hill's suspension is up. Heck, maybe Hill can transfer to LSU in 2 years if Allen is their guy going forward (being facetious.. I wouldn't want him)

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Did Sumlin give up on him?

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If Hill wouldn't have gotten suspended then yes, Allen would still be bench riding and not playing.

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Allen was named the starter prior to the suspension

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Allen was named starter after it was known that Hill would probably be suspended. The official announcement might not have been made, but there were already rumors floating that it was happening before the announcement of Allen at QB.

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This is a valid point. Harris was an early enrollee like Allen. Even if Allen got his chance because Hill was suspended, at least you can see how he has improved with more playing time--no reason the same would not apply to Harris.

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This is the key. Sumlin has a functional offense with an 18yr old QB.