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What if QB is not the problem....but the receivers
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:08 am
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:08 am
We keep harping on the QB and the inability to develop a QB, but after watching the game Saturday. It becomes very obvious that our receivers are for the most part soft and/or brain dead. Chark dropped two key passes. The bomb he missed was there it went right through his hands. Another time he he was not even looking at the ball and Etling had it in the right spot.
What's the deal with Dupree? He can't catch ball that are thrown to him, he won't go and fight for a ball and apparently he does not know where to line up. Also where has Travin Dural been and his speed? Where are those big boys like Davis and Sullivan which are a matchup nightmare for most corners? . Used to be that Dural was a homerun hitter.
What's the deal with Dupree? He can't catch ball that are thrown to him, he won't go and fight for a ball and apparently he does not know where to line up. Also where has Travin Dural been and his speed? Where are those big boys like Davis and Sullivan which are a matchup nightmare for most corners? . Used to be that Dural was a homerun hitter.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 10:09 am
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:08 am to KiwiHead
first downvote
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:09 am to KiwiHead
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The bomb he missed was there it went right through his hands.
No. He could have laid out for it and likely caught it, but it did not go through his hands.
ETA: Why the down votes? The ball didn't go through his hands as OP suggested, and he could have laid out for it and likely got it.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 10:40 am
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:12 am to KiwiHead
Coaching is the problem.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:12 am to KiwiHead
quote:Absolutely not. Ball was overthrown.
The bomb he missed was there it went right through his hands.
And how can we forget the unforced fumble or yet another drive?
Etling cost us the game. Let's be real.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:12 am to KiwiHead
That deep ball was over thrown period.
The receivers have been lacking though that is for sure.
The receivers have been lacking though that is for sure.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:14 am to Navajo61490
Keep em coming. Please explain why the receivers aren't in any way trying to catch the ball and how that was Miles' fault?
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:14 am to KiwiHead
The freshmen receivers as a whole are not quite ready for SEC play. Just because you are 6'5 200 doesn't mean they can run great routes, and or get off the line in a mannerable fashion. As for Dupre, he was WIDE arse OPEN multiple plays in the 4th quarter and Etling DID NOT see him. Dural, he usually is covered by the other team's best corner and Etling's long ball isn't quite as good as Harris, he's better at the intermediate routes. Chark made one hell of a play if the last one were to count, and the one he mised only hit one hand in full stride, it was not a drop, but catchable ball? maybe
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 10:16 am
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:21 am to Tigerdev
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And how can we forget the unforced fumble or yet another drive?
Granted. But how can Chark miss a pass when he was wide open and thrown directly to him? How is it that Dupree after 2 years in the offense as a starter does not know where to line up? Why is it that Dural is not getting open?
Chark could have laid out a little more and probably have caught that pass. Jarvis Landry, Dwayne Bowe, Craig Davis, Odell Beckham, Brandon LaFell and even Rueben Randle would have laid out for it in the past
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:26 am to KiwiHead
Over the past few weeks, LSU recruiting has been gaining the reputation of "mythical".
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:29 am to KiwiHead
It was catch-able but it would have been a highlight reel catch. Aren't we all a bit tired of making excuses for our 4 star recruit QBs. I can make the same list that you made but of qbs that would have made that throw properly.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:31 am to KiwiHead
In The Advocate this morning, a player, Duval I believe, said that some players were "thinking bout the NFL & focusing on their stats. " He did not point out any specific positions or players, but common sense a WR was talking about some other WR's. He also commented on Coach O bringing a rope into his meeting with the players, the old tried & true "we all need to pull together to succeed" speech. He said that was not always the case & that there were many "missed assignments" as a result.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:33 am to KiwiHead
Chark could have laid out and probably caught the deep ball. It was over thrown though, definitely not in his hands.
The one down the sideline to Dupree, on the other hand, went right through his arms. Anytime thee's a defender within 5 yards of Dupree, it's a drop.
The one down the sideline to Dupree, on the other hand, went right through his arms. Anytime thee's a defender within 5 yards of Dupree, it's a drop.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 10:34 am
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:38 am to Tigerdev
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Etling cost us the game. Let's be real.
That's the most unreal thing I've ever read. Our punter cost us that game.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:39 am to ElroyJetSon
The completely unforced fumble cost us the game and that is solely on him.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:40 am to Keltic Tiger
quote:
In The Advocate this morning, a player, Duval I believe, said that some players were "thinking bout the NFL & focusing on their stats. " He did not point out any specific positions or players, but common sense a WR was talking about some other WR's.
And that makes perfect sense. These guys are playing in a offense that is not enjoyable for receivers to play in compared to others. It has been an offense that limits opportunities for receivers. It led to several transfers this past offseason alone. I can understand guys getting a bit selfish and cutthroat when you feel like you aren't really going to compete for a championship and have a potential NFL future to think about.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:44 am to Jwho77
Just watch what happens next if Ensminger actually calls an offense that accepts the risk that comes with incomplete passes and the occasional INT. We will actually throw for +250yds in multiple games with the same QBs and WRs on this roster.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:51 am to KiwiHead
QB is the problem. But it isn't the only problem.
This team is very talented and - from a potential standpoint - could gel very quickly with the right chemistry.
BUT, the team is undisciplined - a hallmark of the era and, frankly, the previous coach wasn't much better at eliminating stupid penalties either. It's something in the water. One positive I've taken from this season is that defensive penalties - at least subjectively, seem to be down - I credit that to Aranda and, to lesser degree, Orgeron. Still not perfect.
But, we commit too many illegal blocks per game. We always have. Our kicking/punting is inconsistent. Coverage teams are inconsistent (although I must admit, pretty solid improvement from Wisconsin to Auburn, particularly on coverage). Pass blocking is spotty. Receivers have too many drops. Run blocking is no longer a huge strength.
The team has lots of fundamental problems, particularly on offense. I believe that is why what happened yesterday went down the way it did. The powers that be insisted that Les fire Cam. Les refused, and that was a fireable offense. I know Ensminger isn't the answer - although I hope I'm wrong. It will be bittersweet when he leaves.
At the first game I attended in Tiger Stadium, (October 1, 1977), Ensminger was a quarterback and I can remember watching the QBs warm up. At the most recent game I attended in person, I watched Ensminger working with the QBs while they were warming up in the same spot.
For the team to be competitive over the long haul, we need young, innovative, energetic coaches. We have some (O isn't young, but he's certainly energetic) - Craig, Juluke, Raymond. Herman may very well be the answer, but the growing pains are going to be ugly.
Say what you want about Les - he found a way to win a lot of football games. Maybe a bunch of them shouldn't have been close - I concede that point. But, we're going to miss elements of his coaching style and the quirky (yet classy) way he dealt with various things - most notably 2007 SEC-CG/"Miles to Michigan".
This team is very talented and - from a potential standpoint - could gel very quickly with the right chemistry.
BUT, the team is undisciplined - a hallmark of the era and, frankly, the previous coach wasn't much better at eliminating stupid penalties either. It's something in the water. One positive I've taken from this season is that defensive penalties - at least subjectively, seem to be down - I credit that to Aranda and, to lesser degree, Orgeron. Still not perfect.
But, we commit too many illegal blocks per game. We always have. Our kicking/punting is inconsistent. Coverage teams are inconsistent (although I must admit, pretty solid improvement from Wisconsin to Auburn, particularly on coverage). Pass blocking is spotty. Receivers have too many drops. Run blocking is no longer a huge strength.
The team has lots of fundamental problems, particularly on offense. I believe that is why what happened yesterday went down the way it did. The powers that be insisted that Les fire Cam. Les refused, and that was a fireable offense. I know Ensminger isn't the answer - although I hope I'm wrong. It will be bittersweet when he leaves.
At the first game I attended in Tiger Stadium, (October 1, 1977), Ensminger was a quarterback and I can remember watching the QBs warm up. At the most recent game I attended in person, I watched Ensminger working with the QBs while they were warming up in the same spot.
For the team to be competitive over the long haul, we need young, innovative, energetic coaches. We have some (O isn't young, but he's certainly energetic) - Craig, Juluke, Raymond. Herman may very well be the answer, but the growing pains are going to be ugly.
Say what you want about Les - he found a way to win a lot of football games. Maybe a bunch of them shouldn't have been close - I concede that point. But, we're going to miss elements of his coaching style and the quirky (yet classy) way he dealt with various things - most notably 2007 SEC-CG/"Miles to Michigan".
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:53 am to Tigerdev
Lol....no Brandon.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:53 am to EastTexasTiger
quote:
Coaching is the problem
Shall find out very quick come this Saturday.
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