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What I would change about the defense

Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:05 pm
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
4691 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:05 pm
After spending way too much time watching breakdowns and replays of our games this season, I have come up some simple personnel adjustments I would make to help the defense. Many may not agree. This is ignoring the obvious change of tackling and pursuit drills until everyone pukes everyday.

1) Move Harold Perkins back inside. I may catch heat for this, but House and Kelly were right to move him to ILB. I didn’t like the way they utilized him vs FSU but moving him completely outside was an overreaction IMO. We still need him on the edge situationally, but he needs to be primarily in the middle. I’m going to show you two plays, a few weeks apart. This is the same exact play: GH counter. Both times it was correctly identified and filled by the LB, with very different results. I’ll let you figure out what’s different.





2) Less Saivion Jones at edge, more Maason Smith. Saivion Jones has been repeatedly victimized as the primary edge defender. Many people have called for Womack here, and on passing downs I would agree, but I want to see Maason smith outside. Smith has been double teamed and basically washed out of almost every play inside. Move him outside, get him some space, and run some twists, stunts, and scrapes with the LB over his outside to steal gaps in the run game.

3) Less Oghufo, more Swinson and Womack. I don’t know why Swinson disappeared. I thought he was far and away better than Oghufo. He and Womack should be the only guys getting snaps at Jack, with Perk subbing in here situationally.

4) Weeks over Speights. Shouldn’t have to explain this one. I think most of TD would agree.

5) Duce Chestnut back in the game. He was hated on early in the season and I get it. He’s undersized and struggles in man against bigger WRs. But he plays well downhill and most importantly he fricking tackles. I’d rather a guy give up a catch and make a tackle than a guy give up a catch and completely whiff giving them 30 more yards.

This obviously doesn’t solve everything, but it stops some of the bleeding. We don’t need to be elite defensively, and obviously we won’t be, but we absolutely can be better. It starts this weekend.

Posted by BasilBogomil
Member since Dec 2012
6095 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:10 pm to
Good stuff
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
27592 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:13 pm to
I've already forward this to the staff
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
3345 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:21 pm to
Meh like it all except keep Perkins on the edge. He’s not great at shedding blocks. Let him plays in space
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
4691 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

Meh like it all except keep Perkins on the edge.

He’s just not an every down edge player. He’s not good at shedding blocks on the edge either. He is very elusive and makes guys miss with their blocks, which he can do inside or outside. With the state of our inside LBs at the moment, he adds way more value inside than outside. Also, I’m not saying he needs to be in the middle every play, far from it, but it should be his primary position.
Posted by LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
Chance of Rain....NEVER!!
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:28 pm to
Are you posting from Destin Coach O ?
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42736 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:29 pm to
Reading between the lines will have to see if Chestnut is a one time not traveling with the team or if he's out of the doghouse
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47921 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:30 pm to
Right, he needs to be on the left edge for passing downs and I emphasize left edge because he’s way more effective there than he is vs Left tackles. On other downs I think you can play Penn with Weeks or if the formation is light Weeks with Perkins but you’re right we have to be selective with how he’s used. He does have to be your left edge rusher on passing downs though, he wins far more than anyone else in that spot.
Posted by Grad92
Member since Feb 2023
1027 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:09 pm to
agreed. our edge rushers used to be guys that look like they can play at WR and not see a huge difference in size/speed.

the middle of our d-line needs an anchor. we had that w/ Shelvin, and the kid from Utah who transferred out.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9586 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

agreed. our edge rushers used to be guys that look like they can play at WR and not see a huge difference in size/speed.

the middle of our d-line needs an anchor. we had that w/ Shelvin, and the kid from Utah who transferred out.




correct apu ika... you have to have an anchor thats immovable for numbers reasons... we dont have that... maason is getting pushed by two guys... you need a 340lb anchor thats immoveable so that counters cant be run...

this should be guillory this year with Maason smith outside where savion is... like the op said... i said this in the beginning of the year and got crucified... masson is not a shade.. hes a 3 and could be an unblockable 5...
Posted by Cargeaux89
Memphis
Member since Oct 2016
1120 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:57 pm to
I’d like to see Chesnut play Nickle. He can tackle and is extremely instinctive. We straight up just have our personnel all outta whack at times
Posted by JetsCoach
Bossier City
Member since Dec 2017
769 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:56 pm to
100% with the moves. But, the secondary schemes might be too intricate for this group at this time. Simplify the coverages and let's see.

Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1148 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:09 pm to
quote:

Move Harold Perkins back inside.


Disagree. That clip you posted of him was one of the only good plays he made there. He had the worst grade of any of the defense that week according to PFF. I really think he’s more of a better Kwon Alexander than a Devin White.

quote:

Weeks over Speights.


I could live with this but I’d much rather Weeks over Penn at this point. He missed a ton of tackles and he’s very slow sideline to sideline.

quote:

Duce Chestnut back in the game.


I don’t think it’s a bad idea to try, but I think Toviano should get some looks as well.

Everything else I agree with.
Posted by Homer Pelican
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Member since Dec 2021
1937 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:12 pm to
Look who went to Walden books and bought a copy of coaching 101
Posted by TigerFan2610
Member since May 2019
289 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:47 pm to
Penn did have a bad game against Ole Miss. Hes gotten a lot of credit this year, but his speed and aggressiveness was lacking on Saturday.
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
4258 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:19 pm to
4 man DLINE with new DEs and I don't care who. Somebody has to be able to pressure the QB from the outside. Perkins and Weeks blitzing from the inside more often than not and mix it up. Line Perkins and Weeks on the los with the 4 Dlinemen and make he OL have to decide who is going to rush and who is going drop out. Presently, our 3 Dlinemen line up the same way 95% of all plays and fool nobody. We need to start fooling some people since we can't manhandle them.
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
4691 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:42 pm to
quote:

I really think he’s more of a better Kwon Alexander than a Devin White

You just made my point for me. Kwon was an off ball linebacker his entire career
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16036 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:24 am to
Jefferson needs to start and play as much as possible. Perkins needs to be used like he was last season. Spy the qb with delayed blitzes as lanes open up. Also can't telegraph when and where he is coming from. He shouldnt be going head to head with OLs. Make the OL account for him without letting them know when and where he is going to be coming from.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16036 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:25 am to
And of course Weeks needs to be starting
This post was edited on 10/4/23 at 9:26 am
Posted by illinoistiger1965
Chicago
Member since Oct 2023
41 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 10:41 am to
Get a defensive coordinator that actually knows what he's doing, that would be the most important one.
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