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Posted on 11/27/16 at 6:32 pm to baobabtiger
quote:Even if the last few years didn't go well, the Miles hire certainly worked out for the first 7-8 years, so if we can repeat that success, we'll be in good shape.
Two hires in a row were meh
Posted on 11/27/16 at 6:33 pm to schwabbie28
quote:Why do you suppose that is? Do you think administration makes that consciously makes that decision?
Otherwise, the hiring practices have never been to do all humanly possible, whatever it takes, to consistently achieve excellence, and nothing less than excellence. Upper second tier has always been "good enough", and generally accepted.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 6:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
it's the 100 or so superior options between those 2 and O that are the problem
You're probably one of those idiots who goes to a casino once a week, or more.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 6:54 pm to TNTigerman
quote:What does that even mean in relation to what you quoted?
You're probably one of those idiots who goes to a casino once a week, or more
Posted on 11/27/16 at 6:57 pm to shel311
What it says is that Alleva is crap and no one wants to work for that shite.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:07 pm to shel311
I am giving Orgeron a chance. He has proven he can get this dumpster fire that Miles and Cameron left us with turned around.
Frankly, I honestly think that few could have done what Orgeron did with this team considering the low point they were in after the Auburn game.
Frankly, I honestly think that few could have done what Orgeron did with this team considering the low point they were in after the Auburn game.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:08 pm to shel311
If we bring in the staff Orgeron wants then things will be fine.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:17 pm to G The Tiger Fan
quote:Your poor comprehension made for a good straw man
So you're 100% sure it's a failure but there's a chance it could not be a failure. This is The Rant in a nutshell.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:51 pm to shel311
What it says is this......run and hide!
Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:53 pm to shel311
Like Fickell was an Interim coach.
Tresses got a huge suspension and they then went and got Urban Meyer
Tresses got a huge suspension and they then went and got Urban Meyer
Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:55 pm to shel311
It says we finally know our place.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:40 pm to shel311
It says our administration is exactly the same it was back in the late 80s. A good ole boy system with nobody in charge. Alleva is pathetic can't negotiate and has no real power or vision. It also says that with these ppl in charge LSU has fallen from college footballs elite and is back to a middle of the pack program. Its impossible not to love coach O and I will pull for him like hell but you don't hire him if you're a top 10 program.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:02 pm to Madking
quote:Our program is a better program now than Bama was when they hired Saban, fwiw.
It also says that with these ppl in charge LSU has fallen from college footballs elite and is back to a middle of the pack program.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:06 pm to DamnStrong1860
Ed was not a mediocre hc. Cutcliffe is mediocre. O was a dozen wins shy of mediocre.
I hope he succeeds greatly. I'll watch every game. But his previous hc stop was a well documented failure.
I hope he succeeds greatly. I'll watch every game. But his previous hc stop was a well documented failure.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:07 pm to athletemed
quote:
Can you tell me what Tom Herman has done to be considered elite?
So you're waiting for a coach with 1-2 NCs in the trophy case to waltz on over to LSU, just because?
That doesn't happen. You don't just wait around for a proven championship winner to hit the market. You have to try to find the next guy up. You most likely will fail in that pursuit but if you don't even try to find that guy, that means the program has given up trying to win championships.
At least Texas is trying.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:08 pm to shel311
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Not performing at an elite level for a time does not mean you're not an elite program. Kind of a dumb point to make. The University of Texas is an elite college football program right now. Bama was too even after a few years of struggling. Don't kid yourself into thinking they weren't. Or else, why did Saban choose to go to Bama? Exactly
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:20 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
quote:
It says that UT is willing to pay to be elite and LSU is not.
Only answer.
We aren't serious about winning.
Texas is.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:25 pm to LSUmudman
quote:
Calling BS on this thread....not looking at things very deeply.....Hermann had ties to Texas...that is where he wanted to be....Jimbo has his kids in Tally.....no amount of money could have brought these guys to BR. Neither of these gentleman wanted anything to do with playing Bama and Saban every year.
Ok.
So you go to the next tier.
You don't immediately go the d line coach with a binder and no agent.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:07 pm to G The Tiger Fan
quote:
So you're 100% sure it's a failure but there's a chance it could not be a failure.
Look at it from 2015. If JA had said he was firing Miles to promote Orgeron, would you have considered that a success? I didn't think so. Well, this is what, in fact has happened. It is a complete failure at hiring a top level coach whatever that means.
I will consider the hire to be a failure unless and until Coach O leads the team to an SEC championship. Oh, and who has he got lined up for OC???
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