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Wet field (natural grass), who does it favor?
Posted on 11/26/19 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 11/26/19 at 12:14 pm
Offense or defense?
Just a wet field after a decent rain.
Not pouring down rain, because that definitely affects the passing game the most with the wet ball, usually high, swirling winds, and the rain actually affecting the flight of the ball.
Both teams will have trouble with footing, traction and a softer field affecting player speed.
I think it boils down to positions. I think WR’s have an advantage over DB’s on a wet field. The receiver knows where he’s going and when they make their cut in the route, the DB has to react immediately and has a higher chance of slipping, giving the WR more separation. Especially when they’re backpedaling and have to reverse direction. High chance of slippage there.
As far as RB’s, it may be similar to a WR.
Just a wet field after a decent rain.
Not pouring down rain, because that definitely affects the passing game the most with the wet ball, usually high, swirling winds, and the rain actually affecting the flight of the ball.
Both teams will have trouble with footing, traction and a softer field affecting player speed.
I think it boils down to positions. I think WR’s have an advantage over DB’s on a wet field. The receiver knows where he’s going and when they make their cut in the route, the DB has to react immediately and has a higher chance of slipping, giving the WR more separation. Especially when they’re backpedaling and have to reverse direction. High chance of slippage there.
As far as RB’s, it may be similar to a WR.
This post was edited on 11/26/19 at 12:33 pm
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Posted on 11/26/19 at 12:34 pm to bhtigerfan
Wet field probably doesn’t matter. If it’s raining a wet ball hurts our offense more
Posted on 11/26/19 at 12:38 pm to bhtigerfan
*whom
Posted on 11/26/19 at 12:40 pm to agdoctor
Rain definitely affects the passing game mostly, but a wet field causes lots of slips and falls.
One simple slip, even momentarily, by a DB can mean the difference between a catch and a pass broken-up, or a tackle and a huge YAC.
One simple slip, even momentarily, by a DB can mean the difference between a catch and a pass broken-up, or a tackle and a huge YAC.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 12:48 pm to bhtigerfan
A wet field favors the offense. The offensive player knows where he going/when he is going to make cuts, the defensive player does not.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 12:55 pm to lsufan_26
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A wet field favors the offense. The offensive player knows where he going/when he is going to make cuts, the defensive player does not.
This is the point everyone always brings up and while it is true it doesn’t factor in that the timing of routes is affected by the rain as well. Receivers don’t run their routes or come out of their breaks as quickly, which means the o-line has to block longer, there with be inevitable slips which open up the possibility of INTs, etc. So while it helps the WR I think it hurts the QB and offensive line. The same way our WR knows where they are going and the DB doesn’t and has to react, their DL knows that move they are gonna use and our O-line has to react
IMO I think a sloppy field and weather helps A&M to keep it closer than it would be under clean conditions.
This post was edited on 11/26/19 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 11/26/19 at 12:56 pm to lsufan_26
quote:Thats what I’m saying about the WR’s, but RB’s have to make immediate cuts to hit open holes.
A wet field favors the offense. The offensive player knows where he going/when he is going to make cuts, the defensive player does not.
I think overall, it benefits WR’s more than any other positions.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 12:58 pm to lsufan_26
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A wet field favors the offense. The offensive player knows where he going/when he is going to make cuts, the defensive player does not.
While probably true generally, I'm not sure that's the case for LSU this year.
Our players have been pretty wide open on dry fields, so I'm not sure another slight advantage over the defender matters that much, but a lot of the throws are into very tight spots based on timing and a sloppy field may throw that off.
In other words, I think there is more downside if a Joe Burrow pass going to no one due to Chase slipping in slop while making a cut than there is upside regarding Chase being less covered than usual.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 12:59 pm to Drfager
quote:So you think it favors the defense?
This is the point everyone always brings up and while it is true it doesn’t factor in that the timing of routes is affected by the rain as well. Receivers don’t come out of their breaks as quickly, there with be inevitable slips which open up the possibility of INTs, etc. IMO I think a sloppy field and weather helps A&M to keep it closer than it would be under clean conditions.
I personally think it only gives an advantage to the WR’s.
It seems like you see a lot of DB’s slipping when they’re backpedaling and then try to go forward to defend an out route or come up to make a tackle.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 1:01 pm to studentsect
I don’t think a wet field would affect the slant routes much.
I could definitely affect the DB’s and LB’s trying to make the tackle.
I could definitely affect the DB’s and LB’s trying to make the tackle.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 1:01 pm to bhtigerfan
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So you think it favors the defense?
I added to my original post. I think there are units on both sides of the ball that benefit from a wet field
Posted on 11/26/19 at 1:02 pm to bhtigerfan
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So you think it favors the defense?
I personally think it only gives an advantage to the WR’s.
It seems like you see a lot of DB’s slipping when they’re backpedaling and then try to go forward to defend an out route or come up to make a tackle.
It hurts LSU offense more than it hurts A&M's defense because they weren't going to cover Chase, Jefferson and Marshall anyway.
I'm generally not concerned about a defender getting in between the ball and an LSU receiver regardless of the weather, but I am concerned about the LSU receiver getting to the place where the ball is thrown if he is slipping while running the route (or having trouble getting to full speed when the ball is snapped).
This post was edited on 11/26/19 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 11/26/19 at 1:05 pm to Drfager
quote:Agreed.
I think there are units on both sides of the ball that benefit from a wet field
Like the lineman. Who has better traction? A DL pushing on a OL on a pass rush, or an OL pass blocking while backpedaling?
I think it’s even when run blocking. Both will have less traction.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 1:49 pm to bhtigerfan
LSU will be fine unless it only rains on their side of the field 
actually ATM has zero running game so the Tigers will be good to go
actually ATM has zero running game so the Tigers will be good to go Posted on 11/26/19 at 1:56 pm to bhtigerfan
Bad weather equals more chances of freak plays, fumbles, crowd leaving early, etc.. It usually is an equalizer and helps the inferior team. In this case A&M.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 2:03 pm to bhtigerfan
TIGAHS
Posted on 11/26/19 at 2:14 pm to bhtigerfan
Wet and slippery field is an advantage for receivers
Posted on 11/26/19 at 2:18 pm to Topwater Trout
Wet and sloppy fields neutralize talent disparities imo.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 2:23 pm to bhtigerfan
Wet field favors the offense, as they are dictating the direction the ball goes. The WRs know their routes, and the DBs are reacting.
RBs are typically reacting to the defense and vice versa, so it's a wash.
RBs are typically reacting to the defense and vice versa, so it's a wash.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 2:43 pm to bhtigerfan
A&M played Georgia on a wet field last week and struggled to run the ball. They had more success with their passing game, especially in the second half.
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