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re: We thought Dale couldn't coach

Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:17 am to
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:17 am to
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He couldn't coach


bullshite!

You don't take over a terrible program and turn it into a final four program without knowing how to coach.

I get so tired of seeing clowns crap on LSU successful coaches as not being good coaches because they can only recruit. What the frick is a more important part of being a good, successful coach in college than being able to recruit?

Being able to recruit is 90% of big time college football.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84835 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:18 am to
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He couldn't coach


Well next to JJ he's Coach K
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:39 am to
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The knock on Dale Brown was he can recruit but not coach.


Have you seen NBA rosters of players from Louisiana who played numerous seasons in the NBA while Dale was coach at LSU? Calvin Natt, Karl Malone, Orlando Wooridge. You could fill an NBA ALL Star roster with NBA players that never played at LSU during Dale's tenure.
Posted by Maniac979
The Great State of Texas
Member since Jan 2012
1904 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:56 am to
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We thought Dale couldn't coach

Speak for yourself.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40775 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:19 am to
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What the frick is a more important part of being a good, successful coach in college than being able to recruit?



Being able to actually coach them up, and be successful. Not to get to the tournament and beat in the first round. Now, he got to a couple final fours, and a couple elite 8's. But there were far more first round losses, and almost as many non appearances.
Posted by setinways12
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
989 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:21 am to
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The knock on Dale Brown was he can recruit but not coach. Since his retirement LSU basketball has disappointed beyond what we could imagine. JJ is lousy at game management. Dale could adjust/motivate during games which helped us win. We need to hire a motivator/recruiter who can coach during the game. That's what we're missing now.


Easy bud...dale was a great recruiter and motivator and did a decent job at changing up defenses/adjusting during the game... but he would fail miserably nowadays. The game is just different now.... teams actually play defense whereas in Dale's time it was more of a make/miss game. Go back and watch one of his games and you'll probably be shocked at how much standing around there is on defense. Let's face it with shorts that small if they squatted their nuts would fall out...
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 11:23 am
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
12709 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:24 am to
I like dale brown. Lsu basketball was good in his time here.
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:24 am to
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Have you seen NBA rosters of players from Louisiana who played numerous seasons in the NBA while Dale was coach at LSU?


Are you seriously going to knock the talent Brown was able to bring to LSU?

You do know that TB couldn't get into LSU? I guess that was LSU's fault too.
Posted by setinways12
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
989 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:25 am to
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I get so tired of seeing clowns crap on LSU successful coaches as not being good coaches because they can only recruit. What the frick is a more important part of being a good, successful coach in college than being able to recruit?


Teaching the game of basketball is more important. Go watch South Carolina play... even with sub par athletes they are competitive and play the game with the perfect combination of intensity and intelligence. It's called development.
Posted by setinways12
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
989 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:27 am to
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I like dale brown. Lsu basketball was good in his time here.


He was great for his time. The game has changed. Like I said he would fail miserably today.
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
12709 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:28 am to
Oh yeah I agree he's too old to coach now lol. But he's by far the best lsu basketball coach in my lifetime.
Posted by setinways12
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
989 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:29 am to
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Oh yeah I agree he's too old to coach now lol. But he's by far the best lsu basketball coach in my lifetime.


Put Dale Brown in a time machine at age 30 and hire him now and he would fail miserably.

But yes, LSU basketball was most successful with him in charge in the 80's.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 11:31 am
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
12709 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:31 am to
That's a retarded statement made by a retarded person. Good lord.
Posted by setinways12
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
989 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:32 am to
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That's a retarded statement made by a retarded person. Good lord.


Oh ok....since you said that then I'll go kill myself.

Dale Brown was not a good X's and O's coach... he's the equivalent of a Les Miles figure.

some coaches would be successful in their prime no matter the time...Dale Brown is not one of the them.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 11:34 am
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
12709 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:35 am to
Dude. You are bringing up time machines in a basketball convo. I never said he would or wouldn't be successful today. I said he was the best coach in lsu history in basketball. Of course if you fricking put him in a time machine and skip so many years that he will be behind...anyone would. Problem is that dale brown is still alive and prob still involved in basketball so he would know the game has changed. It's dumb.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30359 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:47 am to
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2 final fours, 2 elite eights, and 2 sweet sixteens and not be able to coach basketball


He got exposed each time in those scenarios. Had a ton of talent, but could never get a win in the Final Four. 1 Final Four was with an 11 seed that he motivated the shite out of. Then got schooled by Denny Crum.

He lost in the First round as a 4 seed to #13 Navy
He lost in the first round as a #7 seed to #10 Dayton
Got schooled by Bob Knight in his first Final Four
Lost in the first round as a #6 seed (with Shaq and CJ) to a #11 UConn (blown out by Jim Calhoun)

Dale was a great recruiter and elite motivator. Average coach.
Posted by AndrewD
Member since Oct 2013
709 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:48 am to
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some coaches would be successful in their prime no matter the time...Dale Brown is not one of the them.


People said the same thing about Coach Brown while we were going to the final four
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
6766 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:51 am to
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But there were far more first round losses, and almost as many non appearances.


Almost as many nonappearances? What the hell are you talking about? Through the 80's and 90's Dale had well over 10 consecutive NCAA tourney appearances. But by all means, don't let the facts get in the way of your argument; continue to make it up as you go.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30359 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:15 pm to
Yeah, I think at 1 point we were at like 10 or so consecutive appearances

He had a rough go his first few years, but between 1978 and 1992, LSU only missed the NCCAT twice.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:16 pm to
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That's because he couldn't. Chris Jackson, Shaq, and Stanley Roberts agree.



I really don't think Chris Jackson or Shaq agree
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