We have a top 10 recruiting class coming in next yr. Leave Johnny Jones alone
My point is that there is nothing about jones' resume that suggests he can compete with the best teams in the confetence not named kentucky.
quote:i've already explained how focusing on comparing jones to haith is missing the big picture. It's oversimplification which is typical around here. Lsu's last 3 hires have been disappointing.
No one is simplifying shit
quote:still didn't win the conference which is weak, didn't make even 1 impressive tourney run much less have a signature tourney win. Think about what you're saying. Athletic powerhouse lsu is now satisfied with a coach who got unt out of the cellar. This is how low the standard has fallen and you're defending it
He averaged like 20 wins a year his last 6 years there
quote:saban had impressive wins and had an impressive resume in a major conferenence. It's not like lsu hired a coach who averaged 9 wins for a few seasons at marshall or san jose st.
Did Nick Saban's resume look that good
You think jones' resume is better than average?
I don't know who was interested. I'm not a mind reader.
What i know is comparing resumes and tourney wins.
Now, lsu is playing exactly the way his resume would suggest
still didn't win the conference which is weak, didn't make even 1 impressive tourney run much less have a signature tourney win. Think about what you're saying. Athletic powerhouse lsu is now satisfied with a coach who got unt out of the cellar. This is how low the standard has fallen and you're defending it
saban had impressive wins and had an impressive resume in a major conferenence. It's not like lsu hired a coach who averaged 9 wins for a few seasons at marshall or san jose st.
1995 Michigan State 6–5–1 4–3–1 5th L Independence
1996 Michigan State 6–6 5–3 5th L Sun
1997 Michigan State 7–5 4–4 6th L Aloha
1998 Michigan State 6–6 4–4 6th
1999 Michigan State 9–2* 6–2 2nd
quote:i think you know that jones has zero conference championships. Winning the regular season is more difficult and more respectable than winning the conference tourney. Plenty of less than great teams get hot for a weekend and string together a few wins even though they aren't great. To make it through the grind of the regular season or the ncaa tourney is a whale of a job. Jones has done neither.
quote:coaches at equal to lesser schools do. What's the problem.
you expect that the coach at NORTH TEXAS should have a deep tournament run to his resume?
quote:no, you look at his resume vs others. He's not coaching in a bubble. Improving unt while never winning the conference is not nearly as impressive as doing well at a better school/conference.
He GREATLY improved their program. That is what you look at.
quote:i don't know why i have to keep reminding people that the competition in the sun belt is pretty low. It shouldn't take sec level talent to win that conference. He got sun belt level talent and couldn't win the conference nor was there one time when he turned heads in the tourney. That's just not impressive.
Talent wasnt going to North Texas.
quote:good grief. You list several impressive wins yet fail to point out that jones hasn't done squat in the basketball equivalent- the tourney. Then you list saban's records, failing to note that getting crappy mich st to that point in a pretty strong big10 with powerhouse mich right down the road is 10 times more impressive than jones' meager accomplishments in the freaking sun belt. And everybody who knew anything about fb knew that saban was legit while there don't seem to be ANY major programs chasing jones except for lsu.
This is Saban's resume at Michigan State.
quote:tell me what part of what i said is not factual. It is a fact that there have been plenty of coaches over the last 15 years who had better resumes than who lsu hired. Lsu is aiming low and you geniuses are defending it. Good job