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re: VIDEO: Harris said lots of passes called, opens up questions about game plan.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:53 pm to Topwater Trout
Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:53 pm to Topwater Trout
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If they are teaching him to check down when the box is stacked
I'm sure they are teaching him that.
Consider 3-4 check downs, maybe on short yardage where he thought we could get a first down, 3-4 where he ran it instead of throwing it, and 2-3 that didn't count due to penalty, and you have 22-25 pass plays called when accounting for the 14 attempts he did have. 3 check downs, where maybe one didn't work and two did, is nothing over the course of a game.
Why do people congregate around the extremes of the spectrum of opinion?
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Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:54 pm to Dlab2013
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Well when your roommate is getting almost 6 ypc feed him the rock!
This. Watch his post game interview and you'll find your answer.
Dude has a lot of faith in his backs and o-line, just not as much for himself, but that will come soon enough guys.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:54 pm to Salmon
You agree that qbs should check out of pass plays and run into stacked boxes?
Can you just tell me why you feel this is a good strategy?
Can you just tell me why you feel this is a good strategy?
Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:55 pm to Topwater Trout
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Can you just tell me why you feel this is a good strategy?
We averaged 5.8 yards per carry with at least 8 in the box
Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:55 pm to Topwater Trout
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You agree that qbs should check out of pass plays and run into stacked boxes?
is that what I said?
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Can you just tell me why you feel this is a good strategy?
did I ever imply that?
I simply said that it is very plausible that Harris has the ability to check to a run if he doesn't like the defense for a pass play
do you not agree with that?
Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:57 pm to Topwater Trout
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If they are teaching him to check down when the box is stacked I see why we take so long to develop a QB
the box wasn't stacked throughout the entire game.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:57 pm to Topwater Trout
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I mean c'mon people last year y'all say he didn't play because he didn't know the offense but now we are suppose to believe he is Peyton manning?
EXACTLY. He was looking to Miles. Miles audibled to run. No other explanation
Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:57 pm to Salmon
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I think it is very plausible that Miles tells him that if he doesn't like a certain look on a pass play, that he can always check down to a safe run play
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I doubt he has the same flexibility when checking out of a run into a pass
It's definitely plausible that Miles told him that. Les is extremely cautious when it comes to passing. Like you said, there is no way he allows him to check to a pass on his own. If Brandon did make the decision to check down, it's because it was drilled into his head to do so.
Les has a very small window for what constitutes a favorable passing situation.
This post was edited on 9/14/15 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:58 pm to Restomod
Yes, but that's because Les and co said "if they come out in any type of zone, you MUST check down to this". Doing this knowing a zone is coming is the same as calling a run
Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:59 pm to hondurantiger
Why are people assuming he checked to runs when the box was stacked? Isn't it more likely that he checked to runs when he got a double high safety look? Everyone keeps asking why Harris would check to a run when the box was full, but that isn't what was said. Of course that doesn't make sense. It also likely did not happen this way.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 3:00 pm to TFS4E
First thought lol. Is he covering for Miles
Harris already has that type of control?
Harris already has that type of control?
Posted on 9/14/15 at 3:00 pm to GRTiger
I would just be shocked that he wod check half of the called pass plays into runs...but to expound on your statement...why wouldn't he check some runs into pass plays?
Posted on 9/14/15 at 3:00 pm to therick711
One bad thing can result by running the ball
Passing has 2 bad possibilities
Passing has 2 bad possibilities
Posted on 9/14/15 at 3:01 pm to Run DMC
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He was looking to Miles. Miles audibled to run. No other explanation
If that's the case, then they have worked out a very efficient procedure for doing so, and I'm OK with it. Because if that's what's happening, it bears no resemblance to the meercat check with me crap that we've seen in the past.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 3:01 pm to therick711
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Why are people assuming he checked to runs when the box was stacked?
because they can't objectively look at any piece of info that runs counter to their image of Miles
Posted on 9/14/15 at 3:01 pm to Topwater Trout
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why wouldn't he check some runs into pass plays?
This has been covered in several posts already with very logical answers.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 3:03 pm to Topwater Trout
That's much more risky. You're arguing that there is no way he has enough freedom to go to a more safe play, so that should at least reconcile with your point of view.
I just found the replay. He definitely made a change at the line without consulting the sideline. It was a run to LF on 3rd and 1. We don't have to argue possibilities when we can see it for ourselves.
I just found the replay. He definitely made a change at the line without consulting the sideline. It was a run to LF on 3rd and 1. We don't have to argue possibilities when we can see it for ourselves.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 3:03 pm to Topwater Trout
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.why wouldn't he check some runs into pass plays?
How do you know he didn't?
Posted on 9/14/15 at 3:04 pm to Topwater Trout
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why wouldn't he check some runs into pass plays?
Because like virtually every other first year starting qb in the history of football, he's been told not to. QB's usually have a set couple of plays to check into, it's not like they're reading the defense and going through the entire playsheet in their head to find the best one. As time goes on he'll get a few "hot read" pass plays for certain looks that he can check in to.
This post was edited on 9/14/15 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 9/14/15 at 3:05 pm to LNCHBOX
The most obvious run checks that made sense probably occurred in our shotgun/pistol sets where we got two high looks. Notice that in the second half, we ran a lot more of our read run package and one man power plays in those sets. Those were the most likely candidates for checks. Based on the amount of checking that was done in this game (as evidenced by the looking to the sideline), it didn't appear that we had a lot of RAC plays, especially in the second half.
This post was edited on 9/14/15 at 3:06 pm
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