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re: UW write up on Fournette...
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:17 am to toughcrittercrumb
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:17 am to toughcrittercrumb
I watched the Arkansas game again last night and our offensive line play was atrocious and Fournette still was putting a hurting on them breaking a ton of tackles. He ended up with about 5 ypc despite getting hit in the backfield most of the first half. Not 1 very long carry, but had more than a handful of tough 4+ yard runs. I wouldn't use that as a game against Fournette at all. The Alabama game he just couldnt get it going as again the OL play was atrocious, but wasn't breaking any tackles either. Arkansas game much different. Fournette had an equally good tough game against Ole Miss which Ole Miss and Arkansas both had good rush defenses. Florida had a good rush defense last year and Fournette ripped them a new a-hole.
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:22 am to Jester
Well like I said SOME aspects not many. He clearly is when watching the two run. Like I've said he gets to top speed faster, turns corners better bc his acceleration is better. He runs harder than LF imo and is more of a natural all around back. I've never seen LF slip tackles like Guice and there's a reason for that. Guice moves better but once LF gets going he's the better back by a good margin. Now he can come out this year and prove me wrong as frick and I'll be glad to eat my words but so for that's just what I've seen and my opinion.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:48 am to toughcrittercrumb
the sec teams who were run on for more than 125 yards were over by sec teams !
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 11:57 am
Posted on 9/1/16 at 11:08 am to BayouBengal99
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How about the ability to not hit the ground?? Admittedly I've seen very little of Guice but the little I've seen he's been very very impressive. 8 yards a carry is better numbers than LF is it not?
In a smaller sample size yes.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 11:37 am to Jester
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Not really. Fournette is not a huge threat in the passing game. Can he catch? Yes, but he doesn't have "great hands." He is a downhill runner and doesn't have the same initial shiftiness that Guice does, which allows Guice to be more effective in dump-off situations. Guice is also amazing at shedding tacklers, which helps. Making the first defender miss on a dump-off or screen is huge.
Fournette's hands have never been questioned. He has always been known as having excellent hands. How many passes have you seen him drop? Check out the great catches of the few passes he has received. I know Guice is considered as having excellent hands because of his performance in the high school all star game. But Fornette has great hands as well.
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To sit here and act like Fournette does everything better is just silly. They are different types of backs, they have different strengths and weaknesses. Fournette doesn't have to be best at everything to be the best all-around back.
I never said Guice was not better than Fournette in any aspect. My question was which? I do not agree that his hands are better than Fournette's. Nor his speed or power. I do agree he is shiftier. But that is not to say Fournette is not shifty like some posters have stated in the past. He can make tacklers miss as well. However, Guice has elusiveness on a higher level. Again this is not downplaying Guice. He is a great back. However, a number of posters have downplayed Fournette's ability. I guess because he is so highly rated. His freshman year there were those who claimed he didn't run hard, he was not elusive, he had no vision and that Williams was a better back. I guess when you are the best there are some who try to find your faults.
i have been bragging on Guice to friends in other states since last year. I tell them we have one just as good backing up Fournette.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 11:55 am to MightyYat
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I can't wait to see all the Sunday headlines. This team is beyond ready to wreck shite. No more wide eyes, no more tentiveness. Just relentless violence on both sides of the ball.
ooooohhhh, my peepee tingled.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:10 pm to toughcrittercrumb
Well, when you face a guy like LF and he's averaging probably about 200 yards a game leading up to Bama I guess it would make those rush defenses look absolutely atrocious.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:22 pm to BayouBengal99
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LF will get his yards... Y'all are the first team he's faced in a year. He's fresh and hungry!!! This will be a totally different team that you guys saw two years ago. He's going to get 200 in this one or they will get a combined 250 between Guice and LF. Guice is a very very talented back maybe just as good as LF and better in some aspects. If LSU uses the correct game planning we should win this easily. Put up over 400 yards on wisky. The defense is going to shut down yalls running attack and look out after. Good luck though
Bayou I really hope you're right but I don't see LF getting 200, as Wisc. has a solid defense. And the only way we get 400 total is if BH passes for over 200.If BH passes for over 200 it should open up the run game for LF and DG to combine for over 200.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:47 am to Jester
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He is much shiftier than Fournette. As I said in the other post, he is better at making defenders miss. He's a "slippery" runner, whereas Fournette is a punishing runner.
Speaking of Fournette, Pro Football Focus stated "He added some wiggle to his game forcing a missed tackle every 3.5 carries in 2015... His 94.3 rush grade led the nation, as did his 85 total missed tackles forced." As I said Guice, I agree is shiftier than Fournette, however Fournette is no stiff himself. He is not just power, he can make tacklers miss as well. That is what makes him such a generational running back, Power, speed, size, great hands, intelligence. He has the complete package.
If LSU was a passing team, Fournette would surprise you with how great his hands are. In fact out of high school they said he could be a great wide receiver because of his hands. Like I previously stated, how many drops do you remember him having? Maybe one? As with the tightends at LSU, you can't show your hands if they won't pass you the ball. Frustrating!!!!!
Posted on 9/2/16 at 10:20 am to BayouBengal99
Guice is more of a shifty runner than LF. They both are very good backs but I think LF is on another level as far as the whole package goes.
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