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UCMJ and this marine question
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:25 am
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:25 am
Do you think this marine is trying make it so he is not responsible for the damage to his body so as to not face punishment from the Corp and the UCMJ? I hope the lawyer for the players looks into this aspect.
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Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:27 am to themunch
The guy was involved in a fight, ok?
His CO is not going to take a favorable view of that any way you look at it. This has been covered already.
His CO is not going to take a favorable view of that any way you look at it. This has been covered already.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:29 am to themunch
damage to his body has nothing to do with UCMJ. Drunk and Disorderly (Article 134), however, is definitely punishable - but if he plays the "I was defending myself", he'll probably be OK. If he was underage, that's another consideration for the military....
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:31 am to themunch
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Do you think this marine is trying make it so he is not responsible for the damage to his body so as to not face punishment from the Corp and the UCMJ? I hope the lawyer for the players looks into this aspect.
I can tell you that he'd definitely have to answer for any kind of fight--his fault or otherwise--and that it wouldn't be looked upon favorably. I don't think, however, that he'd risk a lot more trouble by lying to police and instigating a drawn out investigation just to avoid some EMI.
You never know, though.
This post was edited on 8/24/11 at 7:32 am
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:34 am to Navytiger74
No, his body isn't government property.
Just thought I'd get that out there front and center
Just thought I'd get that out there front and center
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:35 am to Navytiger74
EMI??? What's that?
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:36 am to Navytiger74
Thanks for the input. I have been out of the military for awhile now and forget how all that goes down.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:36 am to tiger91
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EMI??? What's that?
Extra military instruction
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:37 am to tiger91
does anyone know whether the "marine" is on active duty? or is he in the reserves?
that has a major impact....if he's a reservist not in any sort of duty status, then UCMJ action might not be relevant....but there are always other things that can be done!!!
that has a major impact....if he's a reservist not in any sort of duty status, then UCMJ action might not be relevant....but there are always other things that can be done!!!
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:38 am to TheDoc
is there any more to the story that he was harassing the girl both he and JJ were friends with? Man, I'd really like to know what happened. I don't know JJ and this isn't an attempt to have his side but he doesn't seem like the type to let something like that get inside of his head...
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:39 am to TheDoc
What is the story at this point? The marine was trying to leave the parking lot, beeped his horn and the 4 lsu guys kicked his head through the uprights?
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:40 am to TheDoc
He should get some form of punishment. ESP if he was underage. Solider in my unit got into a fight at a bar that was defending himself and he's got 15/15(days of extra duty and forefeiture of 15 days of pay).
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:40 am to TigerWilson88
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What is the story at this point? The marine was trying to leave the parking lot, beeped his horn and the 4 lsu guys kicked his head through the uprights?
Nothing is fact so far
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:41 am to SMD
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He should get some form of punishment. ESP if he was underage. Solider in my unit got into a fight at a bar that was defending himself and he's got 15/15(days of extra duty and forefeiture of 15 days of pay).
He's a reservist
He can still get in trouble in other ways though
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:41 am to TheDoc
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No, his body isn't government property.
I bet he wouldn't say that in front of his boss.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:42 am to TheDoc
O ok.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:44 am to coldhotwings
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I bet he wouldn't say that in front of his boss.
Why would he need to?
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:44 am to SMD
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He should get some form of punishment
Depends. If, in fact, he was dragged from his vehicle and beaten for merely honking his horn, then I would not charge him under UCMJ.
(note: not saying that's what happened, since none of us really know......)
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:45 am to themunch
I'm having a hard time wading through all the bullshite...
First I heard that some guy honked, got drug out of his truck and beat... then a marine comes running over to help him and they beat him up and he got kicked in the head. Is that still the story?
Also, is Andrew Lowery the marine?
First I heard that some guy honked, got drug out of his truck and beat... then a marine comes running over to help him and they beat him up and he got kicked in the head. Is that still the story?
Also, is Andrew Lowery the marine?
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:45 am to SMD
I can tell you that the corps doesn't like any marine giving them a bad name nationally though.
He'll be reprimanded in some way IMO.
He'll be reprimanded in some way IMO.
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